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Unofficial, machine-generated summaries, as of 2026-11-09.

Dr. Jon KrohnInside the Granite 4.0 LLMs: Hybrid State Space Meets Transformers (Shirish Gupta and Tyler Cox)
  • Open, enterprise-grade small models now ship across the hardware range. Gupta says the partnership announced at IBM TechXchange brings IBM's Granite 4.0 models into Dell's AI Factory for deployment from servers to edge devices to PCs. He calls them enterprise-grade because they are Apache 2.0 licensed with open weights and open training data, and says they sit near the top of HELM leaderboards, bookended by models of 100 billion parameters and more; he recommends them as a starting point for fine-tuning.
  • Hybrid state-space layers cut transformers' quadratic memory cost. Cox explains that attention's memory scales quadratically, so doubling context quadruples memory such as the KV cache, while state space models scale linearly; Granite 4's hybrids get sub-quadratic scaling. He credits IBM with steady gains across Granite 3.0 to 3.3, the base for a pure-transformer Granite 4 Micro.
  • The four variants trade size, sparsity and architecture. As Cox lays them out: Granite 4 Micro, a 3-billion-parameter dense transformer; 4H Micro, the same size but hybrid; 4H Tiny, a hybrid mixture-of-experts model with 7 billion total and 1 billion active parameters; and 4H Small, 32 billion total and 9 billion active. He explains that sparse models have knowledge and accuracy closer to their total parameter count but throughput closer to their active count.
Dr. Jon Krohn940: In Case You Missed It in October 2025 — with Jon Krohn (@JonKrohnLearns)
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This compilation of five October 2025 clips keeps landing on one point: AI is changing who does skilled work and how, from data scientists who become orchestrators, to factory planners running optimization models in plain language, to vendors who price AI on proven results. Alongside that runs the case for an ethos that keeps the work honest.

Rewiring skills (episode 933). Sheamus McGovern, founder of ODSC, says the pace of change always outruns most people's ability to absorb it, which also creates opportunity. He cites a study, which he doubts, finding skills in AI-exposed jobs turn over every three years or so. He argues skills multiply rather than disappear, with COBOL programmers still in demand, and that AI is moving from tool to collaborative partner. He relays an open-source agent CEO's view that most office work is drudgery. His advice is to move from building models to designing workflows, supervision and evaluation.

Optimization in practice. A Gurobi specialist describes Toyota letting planners run tariff and supply what-if scenarios against an optimization model through an LLM interface. He also describes Total Wine, whose data-science team learned optimization from scratch when machine learning fell short, and which he says now saves a lot of money.

An oath for technologists (episode 935). Stephanie Hare favors a Hippocratic-style oath because it is an ethos rather than a licence. She points to the oath's reboot after the Nuremberg doctors' trial, and to the ethics codes of lawyers, accountants and UK civil servants. She rejects new regulation and argues most invention starts from solving problems, not from profit.

Concatenating models (episode 929). The BDH paper's author explains that its architecture scales along one dimension, neurons, so networks trained on English and French can be joined into a working multilingual model. Its 1-billion-parameter models are comparable with others of that size. The team is targeting reasoning models over billion-token contexts, such as an enterprise's million pages of documentation or a large codebase.

Pay only for value (episode 932). Schneider says Unframe, with $50 million raised, builds tailored solutions from hundreds of reusable blocks and charges nothing until agreed KPIs are met. It then licenses per solution per year, with services included.

  • The speed of change, not lost skills, is the real challenge. McGovern, founder of ODSC, cites a study he read finding skills in AI-exposed jobs turn over by "30 something%", roughly every three years, though he says he doesn't quite believe it. He argues skills never go away but multiply, and that practitioners should shift from building models from scratch to designing workflows, supervision and evaluation, as orchestrators rather than builders.
  • Optimization behind an LLM interface puts planners in charge of what-if analysis. A Gurobi optimization specialist describes a Toyota talk on vehicle manufacturing planning, where planners test scenarios such as tariffs swinging from 0% to 10% to 80% through natural language, without writing models. He also describes Total Wine, whose data-science team had no operations-research background, learning mathematical optimization when machine learning "was not cutting it", and saving what he calls "a lot of money".
  • Technologists should hold an unenforced professional ethos, not more regulation. Hare says she favors a Hippocratic-style oath precisely because it is not enforceable: an ethos of "first do no harm" and of maximizing benefits while minimizing harms, as lawyers, accountants and UK civil servants have. She notes the medical oath was rebooted after the Nuremberg doctors' trial, and disputes the host's suggestion that profit is technology's first incentive, saying the best work comes from solving problems.
  • The new architecture's networks concatenate into one multilingual model. The BDH ("baby dragon hatchling") paper's author says its models scale along a single dimension, the number of neurons, so two networks trained on different languages can be placed side by side and work out of the box, optionally with post-training. He says its 1-billion-parameter models match or beat others at that scale, and that the team is aiming at reasoning models over contexts as large as 1 billion tokens rather than releasing a 70–80-billion-parameter chatbot.
  • Customers pay only once a custom AI build shows business value. Schneider says Unframe, founded around March of the previous year and having raised $50 million in total, broke the startup playbook by serving many personas and industries from day one. Its "managed AI delivery platform" assembles hundreds of building blocks into tailored solutions, with no cost until agreed KPIs are hit. Services are included in a T-shirt-sized subscription per solution per year, and some customers run 5 to 15 solutions on it.
AI Analyst LabAsk Studio AI: How It Boosts YouTube Performance
  • Ask Studio ties retention to what was said in the video. The host demos a new Gemini chat in YouTube Studio, which he thinks may be experimental, on the Data Neighbor episode with Hex CEO Barry. That episode had been out a little over three weeks, with an average view percentage of 15% against the channel's usual 8–9%. The tool read the transcript and linked retention to topics: viewers stayed for the origin story (minutes 2–4), the "human element of data" discussion (5–7) and the demo, and dropped off in the product-market-fit segments.
  • Its most usable advice was on the intro. It said to open with the audience's problem instead of "what is Hex", put the most engaging material in the first minute, add a short "sizzle reel" of sound bites, and keep introductions to 30–60 seconds. The host agrees his intro ran long and wonders whether the hosts should stop introducing themselves. Asked for intro lines taken from the transcript, it mostly wrote new lines that were never said in the interview, with only some verbatim clips. Partway through the chat it also lost track of which video was being discussed.
  • Search and suggested traffic drove the Hex episode's click-through rate. Over the last 28 days the video's CTR was 14.6% from search and 4.7% from suggested videos. Browse brought the most impressions but at an average CTR. The tool credited a specific, benefit-led title and proposed variants built on "unlock" and "secret". It also rewrote four other titles, such as recasting the AI research engineer episode as "Become an AI Research Engineer: What It Takes & How To Start", and the host says he will adopt all four and watch the effect. It could not view thumbnails or generate an image.
  • Across the channel, practical tool demos and career guides perform best. Its examples were a Replit episode on building a BI agent and episodes on becoming a data engineer or an AI engineer. It suggested interviewing founders and product people from data-tool companies, as well as recruiters, which the host notes the show has never had on. It also drafted interview questions, including asking guests about impact, which the host admits the show often skips.
  • It had little to say about the audience itself. It said there was not enough data to tell when viewers are online, and that 91% of viewers watch long-form. Searches leading to the channel were about data science salaries, data engineering and Hex, with traffic from Google search, LinkedIn and three views from ChatGPT. The host's view is that the tool beats the AI features in his podcast recording software and that YouTube should build this kind of title review in as a standard feature.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Deploy AI Easily on Any Chip and Device (Shirish Gupta and Tyler Cox)
  • The on-device AI stack is mostly glue over partners' runtimes. Cox says Dell's tooling, formerly Dell Pro AI Studio, presents one consistent API across systems such as Dell Pro Max and Pro Plus, so apps need not handle each platform's quantization parameters, toolchains and runtimes. He says it integrates eight back-end runtimes "and counting", which Dell did not build, so an app doesn't have to carry the difference between, say, an AMD NPU and an Nvidia RTX Pro GPU.
  • Multi-chip routing and model management hide hardware complexity. Cox says some systems carry four or five kinds of accelerator, and the software lets an app run a model on the NPU in one session and the GPU in the next. Its model management sends the right model versions and dependencies to each platform, so an IT admin deploying to 5,000 users doesn't pick versions per machine. The command-line tools follow existing local-AI conventions rather than reinventing them.
AI Analyst LabBecome an AI Research Engineer: What It Takes & How To Start | Ep41
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The hosts of the Data Neighbor podcast interview Sandy Besson, an AI research engineer and ecosystem lead at IBM Research. The conversation ends on two positions she holds. First, an LLM's value comes from the system built around it, so reliability should be enforced at the framework level rather than left to the model's reasoning. Second, data scientists should learn above and below their stack and show it with public projects.

The role. Sandy's team runs like an incubator. It turns research from IBM and other labs into applied product, builds first-of-their-kind use cases, and open-sources the results. She tries to experiment with something new every week, at the time of recording Claude's newly released skills, and folds what works into an open-source agent framework focused on security and reliability.

Agents and frameworks. She defines an agent as an LLM calling tools in a loop until a task is done, with the framework as the code that actually executes the tools. Her team's "requirement agent" restricts which tools are exposed at each step, which prevents loops, skipped validation and premature answers, and lets smaller models compete. A co-host counters that models are improving quickly. Sandy concedes the point but expects the next leap to come from new architectures.

Tools and access. For dabblers she points to low-code builders and to vibe-coding sites that let a non-front-end developer build a website over a weekend, while she herself builds in code. The hosts compare workplace access. Their companies hold several enterprise licenses, and the host's legal-tech employer allows customer data only with zero-retention providers. Sandy concludes that no provider has clearly won.

Evals. Sandy says no benchmark tests frameworks themselves, as opposed to models, and that failure rates move whenever the model or the tools change. She separates LLM-as-judge and agent-as-judge validation from benchmark and feedback evals. The host adds that silent model updates are a sharper version of classic drift.

Systems and careers. Sandy sees coding agents and judges turning from single steps into systems, and a co-host notes that system design has always been the core skill. Her career advice for data scientists is to learn below and above their stack and build in the open, because she judges candidates by repos that show how quickly they learn. Along the way she observes that many of the AI people who bridge research and public-facing work were once theater kids, herself included.

  • An agent framework is the glue that lets an LLM act. Sandy Besson, an AI research engineer on a product incubation team at IBM Research, paraphrases Harrison Chase's definition of an agent: an LLM calling tools in a loop until a task is complete. Because an LLM only produces language, the framework is what executes the tools, sets the configuration and adds system prompts. She works on an open-source IBM agent framework (captioned "BAI") focused on security and reliability, with middleware for guardrails, content safety and authorization.
  • Enforce tool order in the framework, not through the prompt. Her team's "requirement agent" exposes only the tools an agent is allowed to use at a given moment. That way the agent can't loop, skip a validation tool or stop early on a hallucinated answer. She says this lets much smaller models perform nearly as well, comparing it to limiting an elementary-school student's options rather than relying on a college student's judgment. A co-host argues that models are improving fast enough to make this help unnecessary, and Sandy says that is possible but that the next leap will need new architectures.
  • No benchmark yet evaluates agent frameworks themselves. Sandy says existing benchmarks test tool calling at the model level, and that a middleware failure rate shifts whenever the model or the available tools change. She expects to need custom eval sets. She separates LLM-as-judge and agent-as-judge validation from eval proper, meaning benchmarks or user feedback. The host notes that a silent model checkpoint change can alter system-prompt behavior, an amplified form of classic model drift.
  • Teams license several AI providers and switch often. A co-host's employer licenses ChatGPT, Cursor and Claude Code per person on justification. The host, who works in legal tech, says customer data goes only to providers with zero data retention, and even 30-day retention rules them out. Sandy reads the multiple licenses as a sign the industry has not placed its bet yet. She prefers tools that don't write files directly, and the host says none he has tried handles large Jupyter notebooks well.
  • Data scientists should learn above and below their stack. Sandy says narrowly specialized roles are becoming less common. When she reviews résumés from people with strong data science skills, she asks for linked repos showing an application or a backend they built, to judge how fast they learn. Her own route went from performing arts through a data science master's, consulting and IBM acquisition integration to applied research after GPT-3, and she has been at IBM Research about six months.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy Move AI Workloads from Cloud to PC? (Shirish Gupta and Tyler Cox)
  • Unequal inferences mean AI will run hybrid, cloud to PC. Gupta says customers who start in the cloud and scale to production find that costs skyrocket or on-prem compute runs out. Citing a prediction that 90% of AI workloads will be inference by the turn of the decade, he forecasts workloads running seamlessly across cloud, edge and PC fleets.
  • The model should match the "quality of tokens" a task needs. Gupta's example is coding: autocomplete can run on a small local model rather than burdening a GB300 superchip, while a full-scale refactor may need a frontier model. He expects much intelligence to go into routing workloads, and AI PCs to play an important role in enterprise AI strategy.
  • Local inference cuts latency, keeps queries private and stays available. Gupta says running on the PC removes about 200 milliseconds of cloud latency, which matters for voice and video. He argues that even when the data sits in the cloud, a local model keeps the query and its inputs and outputs private, whereas he says public cloud model queries are "completely indexable by search engines". A recent AWS outage, he adds, showed that on-device AI is always available.
Dr. Jon Krohn939: Mixture-of-Experts and State-Space Models on Edge Devices — with Tyler Cox and Shirish Gupta
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Dell's Shirish Gupta and distinguished engineer Tyler Cox argue that mixture-of-experts and state-space models, normally awkward to run locally, can be deployed across an enterprise PC fleet as easily as in the cloud. Their case rests on IBM's open Granite 4.0 hybrids and on Dell's AI PC toolkit, which hides silicon diversity. Their position is that AI will be hybrid, with each inference routed to the cheapest engine that does the job.

Why the toolkit exists. Gupta says what was Dell Pro AI Studio, being renamed at recording as part of the Dell AI Factory, grew from customer research starting early the previous year. It addressed three problems: diverse silicon and runtimes slowing adoption by customers and software vendors, no enterprise-grade lifecycle management for on-device AI, and deployment far harder than the cloud. It has three parts: a PC model catalog in the Dell Enterprise Hub on Hugging Face; an on-device framework that lets existing cloud workloads point to the PC as localhost; and lifecycle management through the Dell Management Portal in Intune.

Why run locally. Gupta argues that inferences are not equal: scaling in the cloud sends costs up, and on-prem runs out of compute. Citing a prediction that 90% of AI workloads will be inference by decade's end, he says code autocomplete belongs on a PC while a full refactor may need a frontier model. Local inference saves about 200 milliseconds of latency, keeps queries private, and, as a recent AWS outage showed, stays available.

How it works. Cox calls the software largely glue. It integrates eight back-end runtimes "and counting" behind one API, routes models between NPU and GPU, and pushes the right model versions and dependencies to each machine in a 5,000-user rollout.

The Granite models. Gupta presents the IBM partnership as bringing Apache 2.0 models with open weights and training data that sit near the top of HELM. Cox lays out four variants: a 3-billion-parameter dense transformer Micro; a hybrid 4H Micro; and mixture-of-experts hybrids 4H Tiny (7 billion total, 1 billion active) and 4H Small (32 billion, 9 billion active). Sparse models, he explains, keep the knowledge of their total size and the speed of their active size.

State space models and hybrids. Cox traces state space models from 1960s spaceflight control to S4, S6 and Mamba. Granite uses a 9:1 ratio of Mamba to attention layers, since attention keeps local sensitivity that Mamba loses. Training data reaches 512k context and validation 128k. Eight 128k sessions on Micro use about 15 gigabytes against about 80 for a pure transformer. He cites a Meta FAIR paper that favors hybrids, and expects more of them.

Hardware and failure. Gupta's Lunar Lake figures include 88% more Teams battery life and up to 10x AI CPU performance. On the MIT claim that 95% of enterprise AI projects fail, he prescribes clear goals, humans in the loop through production, and traditional machine learning where it suffices.

  • On-device AI needed to be as easy to deploy as the cloud. Gupta says Dell's toolkit, formerly Dell Pro AI Studio and being renamed within the Dell AI Factory, answered three problems: silicon and runtime diversity slowing adoption, no enterprise-grade fleet lifecycle management, and the gap with cloud ease. Its parts are a PC model catalog in the Dell Enterprise Hub on Hugging Face, an on-device framework that lets cloud workloads point at the PC as localhost via existing API standards, and lifecycle management through the Dell Management Portal in Intune.
  • Inference should be routed by the token quality each task needs. Gupta cites a prediction that 90% of AI workloads will be inference by the end of the decade and forecasts hybrid AI across cloud, edge and PC. In his example, code autocomplete belongs on a small local model and a full refactor on a frontier model. Local inference also removes about 200 milliseconds of cloud latency and keeps queries private; he says a recent AWS outage showed its availability value.
  • Hybrid Mamba-attention models keep long context cheap. Cox says Granite 4.0 H models interleave Mamba and attention layers at a 9:1 ratio because Mamba handles global context well but loses attention's local sensitivity. He cites IBM's figure of about 15 gigabytes for eight 128k-context sessions on the 3-billion-parameter Micro, against about 80 for a pure transformer. He relays a Meta FAIR paper recommending more hybrids for training and inference efficiency, and expects more of them.
  • Sparse Granite variants pair large-model knowledge with small-model throughput. Cox describes Granite 4H Tiny (7 billion total, 1 billion active parameters) and 4H Small (32 billion total, 9 billion active) as mixture-of-experts hybrids, alongside 3-billion-parameter dense Micro models. He says Dell tunes inference parameters such as context length per device, from a 16-gigabyte AI PC to an RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell with 96 gigs of VRAM, and had day-zero support.
  • AI PCs should be judged on CPU, GPU and NPU together. Gupta compares a Dell Pro Plus with Intel Core Ultra 200V (Lunar Lake) against an older non-AI-PC chipset: 88% more battery runtime in Teams meetings, 4.8x graphics, almost 10x on-device AI CPU and 4.2x AI GPU performance, over 6x on Mistral 7B and Llama 3.1 text generation, and up to 5.6x on Stable Diffusion 1.5 image generation.
Dr. Jon KrohnUsing AI to Detect Early Signs of Alzheimer’s (with Marc Dupuis)
  • Image processing could catch brain shrinkage too subtle for doctors. Dupuis says his master's research at Imperial College London, about 10 years before recording, used image processing on brain scans to detect early Alzheimer's. Back then brain shrinkage was one of the early physiological signs, but too subtle for a doctor to see until months later, when it was too late; Alzheimer's is hard to reverse, but early detection might slow it. He notes other markers have advanced a lot since.
  • Brain-signal decoding is mostly a hard signal-versus-noise problem. Dupuis says much of his broader biotech master's covered signal processing of brain waves, for example from implants in monkeys controlling robotic arms. The difficulty is separating intent from everything else in billions of connections, such as whether the brain is reacting to what the eyes see or to the attempt to move the arm.
Dr. Jon KrohnSemantic Layers 101: Keeping AI Analytics Consistent (with Marc Dupuis)
  • AI analytics risks redefining a metric every time someone asks. Dupuis calls it a "justified fear" that AI given to everyone will reinvent metrics with each question, even when humans agree on definitions. He points to semantic layers and guardrails, with data teams supervising and working with business stakeholders, as the answer, and says the data team's job of keeping metrics consistent does not change.
  • Dashboards will be fewer but matter more. Dupuis argues the dashboards that survive will be curated by data teams and track the core metrics such as churn, ARR and retention, with the team spending more time making sure they are correct. AI's role is the questions that have not yet reached the north-star metrics or OKRs.
  • Explore a metric with AI before formalizing it. Dupuis's process is for a data scientist and a product manager or CSM to explore a hypothesis metric with AI on raw or curated data, often finding the question was wrong, rather than modeling it into the warehouse first. If the metric holds steady for a month or a quarter, it then goes through the "proper channels" into the warehouse, data models and a dashboard.
Dr. Jon KrohnAI Agents vs. Code Assistants: The Next Evolution in Data Work (with Marc Dupuis)
  • AI plays two distinct roles in data work: coder and embedded collaborator. Dupuis says the first is code generation, writing, debugging or optimizing SQL and Python; in Fabi, he says, 90 to 95% of the code run is AI-generated, with manual correction possible. The second goes beyond automating a dashboard or a chart being sent: an agent embedded in the workflow interprets the table or chart and suggests the next best action. Fabi's AI summarization cells, for instance, turn any number of data frames into an executive summary using the user's choice of LLM.
Dr. Jon Krohn938: Frontier AI Agents for Data Science — with Sphinx’s Rohan Kodialam
  • Coding agents fail at data science because they never interpret the data. Kodialam, co-founder and CEO of Sphinx, which the host says has raised $9.5 million, argues data work differs from software engineering the way a poem differs from a technical paper. His example: a frontier coding agent handles a clean linear regression, but with outliers, invalid rows or non-linear shape its answers become "very variable". It treats the task as code that runs and outputs an R-squared, "mission accomplished", without looking at the data.
  • Sphinx treats data as its own modality, built for AI to read. Kodialam says Sphinx builds only a representation-learning layer that turns data into context, and leaves text and code to frontier models. His illustration is five years of Walmart's stock price printed as about 80 pages of numbers, which is how an LLM sees data today, against a candlestick chart a human grasps at a glance. He adds that models are also poor at reading charts, giving vague answers on the correlation in a scatter plot.
  • The agent works from the Python kernel and executes on the user's side. Kodialam says most coding agents treat the bash terminal as home base, while Sphinx uses the IPython kernel so it can transform in-memory objects, which makes Jupyter a natural interface. It works as a side chat operating at the level of actions, writes ordinary SQL, Python and markdown cells for auditability, and runs on the user's compute so Sphinx never takes their data. Users typically start with small tasks such as joining two tables before moving to fully agentic flows.
  • Better tools mean more data scientists, not fewer. Kodialam says existing data-heavy clients mainly get "five times faster", while the more transformative case is a consumer packaged goods customer now hiring more data scientists because each produces more. He says some early customers' data teams have doubled, and cites a Harvard Business School figure that 80% of CEOs call data a top priority but 20% actually invest in it.
Dr. Jon KrohnWill AI Tools Like Fabi Replace Data Scientists? (with Marc Dupuis)
  • Self-serve AI analytics changes data scientists' work rather than replacing them. Dupuis says that when business users explore data themselves, even imperfectly, they bring data scientists much better initial questions instead of filing a Jira or Linear ticket. He says this is the change he sees most with customers: a more collaborative, data-literate working relationship.
  • Business understanding and statistics will outvalue memorized coding. Dupuis argues that as AI gets good at coding, recalling syntax such as a Plotly chart matters less. He says data scientists should learn how the business makes money and its P&L, and lean on fundamentals in statistics and ML to design experiments and supervise the AI. He calls it the most exciting time for data scientists in five or ten years.
AI Analyst LabAvoid AI Failure: Why Scale Breaks Systems | Ep40
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The hosts of the Data Neighbor podcast interview Jigyasa Grover, an ML engineer at Uber, author and course instructor. She argues that agents fail at scale through weaknesses in the parts around the model: data, evaluation, memory and security. Her conclusion is that scalable evaluation, adversarial evaluation included, is the real barrier before agents can run autonomously, and that until then high-stakes decisions need a human in the loop. Critical reasoning is the human skill she would keep sharp.

The lifecycle over the model. She tells listeners not to chase the newest model and to think end to end instead. Well-governed data separates a working model from a production system. Evaluation is roughly "100x" harder than in classical ML because it has to be qualitative as well as quantitative, and every user behaves differently. The host adds that the same user's tolerance for imprecision changes with context.

Agent types and guardrails. Using Google's Agent Development Kit as her reference, she separates LLM agents from workflow agents (sequential, parallel or loop). Her travel-assistant example orders a weather check before the packing list, with events and an itinerary built in parallel. In her view workflows are themselves a guardrail. Constraints still need dynamic calibration through feedback, and a co-host adds personalization as a further guardrail.

Memory. She breaks agent memory into long-term, mid-term and short-term memory, and the work into retaining, retrieving and reasoning. Context-window limits and latency make it hard to retrieve exactly enough. She also admits she can't map human mid-term memory onto anything in current systems.

Where traditional ML stays. Asked where LLMs are being forced in, she says structured prediction such as recommendations belongs to traditional ML, which is faster, cheaper and easier to measure. LLMs augment it through explanations and feature engineering. The host describes using LLMs to create variables for causal models.

Evaluation and attack surfaces. Looking ahead to consumer agents, she says the battle is evaluation for agents that negotiate with other companies' agents. She lists the attacks: LLM jacking, prompt injection to pull another user's card number, memory poisoning, compromised API keys and social engineering. Her countermeasures are specialist adversarial testing, continuous monitoring, and role-based memory access with no cross-contamination. The host observes that most evals he sees check answer quality, not security.

Wider effects. The hosts move on to children who trust voice assistants over their parents. Jigyasa warns of over-reliance and misinformation, and a co-host argues for foundational education on how such systems work. She describes her own split of tools at the time of recording: GPT-5 for productivity, Claude Sonnet in Cursor for code, Glean for onboarding and Perplexity for research. She also raises the dilution of the human signal in training data as AI content spreads, content-provenance labels, and a shift from SEO to "GEO", optimizing to appear in LLM answers.

  • Production quality comes from the whole lifecycle, not the newest model. Jigyasa Grover, an ML engineer at Uber who previously worked at Twitter, says it is fine not to run the latest model version. Curated, representative, well-governed data is what separates a working model from a production system. Evaluating LLM and agentic systems is "100x" harder than classical ML, because it needs qualitative as well as quantitative measures and no one can simulate every user's interaction or tool trajectory.
  • Workflow agents add the reliability that LLM agents lack. Following Google's Agent Development Kit, she separates LLM-based agents from workflow agents, which can be sequential, parallel or loop-based. In her travel-assistant example, the weather check has to run before the packing list, while a parallel agent builds an itinerary from local events. Too many guardrails stifle creativity and too few allow unsafe results, so she calibrates constraints with monitoring and feedback, for instance when weather data is unavailable.
  • Agent memory comes down to retain, retrieve and reason. She describes long-term memory (preferences), mid-term memory (boarding passes, upcoming tickets) and short-term memory (the current context). Because context windows are limited and latency rises with what goes into them, the hard part is retrieving "nothing more, nothing less" than what the task needs. A co-host summarized this as the three Rs.
  • Traditional ML still wins on well-defined prediction. In her view, recommendation and personalization with clear inputs, ground truth and outputs belong to traditional ML, and using an LLM there is overkill. LLMs instead augment it: her current work uses them for post-hoc explanations of rankings, and she suggests LLM-extracted features for traditional models. The host describes using LLMs to build causal-model variables that couldn't be captured before.
  • Scalable evaluation and security block truly autonomous agents. Jigyasa expects agents to deal with other companies' agents, using an Expedia agent contacting Hyatt's and Air Canada's agents as her example. She lists threats including LLM jacking, prompt injection to extract the previous user's credit card, and memory poisoning through repetition. Her defenses are adversarial simulation, continuous anomaly monitoring, memory hygiene with role-based access control, and a human in the loop for high-stakes decisions. The host notes that most evals he sees measure answer quality rather than security.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe Origin of Fabi: Fast BI for the AI Era (with Marc Dupuis)
  • The company grew from a product manager's dependence on a data scientist. Dupuis says he moved from data science into a decade-plus of product management, while his co-founder, who has a PhD and led data science teams at companies including Lyft and Clari, handled his data questions by pulling data in a notebook and sending back spreadsheets or screenshots. Fabi, short for "fast BI", aims to make that collaboration far more efficient with AI.
  • "Vibe analytics" means building data apps and analyses mainly through AI. Dupuis says fully or semi-autonomous AI lets semi-technical users such as product managers, CSMs and founders build dashboards and workflows by talking to it, while freeing data scientists for higher-value work than coding.
  • AI shouldn't query the warehouse live on every question. Dupuis warns that handing a marketer an MCP server or direct connection would run up data warehouse costs, so a vibe-analytics platform has to control how AI reaches the data.
Dr. Jon Krohn937: How to Design AI-First Products — with Marc Dupuis
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Marc Dupuis, co-founder and CEO of Fabi.ai, an AI-native business intelligence platform, argues that AI analytics does not replace data scientists. It moves them away from routine coding toward business understanding, experiment design and supervising the AI. It works only when the AI is bounded to curated data, gives users a choice of autonomy, makes every action reversible, and delivers insights into workflows rather than dashboards.

Origin. Dupuis started as a data scientist after a neurotechnology master's at Imperial College London and spent more than ten years as a product manager on data-heavy SaaS. His co-founder, who has a PhD and led data science at companies including Lyft and Clari, used to answer his data questions by pulling data in a notebook and sending back spreadsheets or screenshots. Fabi, "fast BI", is meant to replace that loop. Its "vibe analytics" lets semi-technical users build data apps and workflows by talking to an AI that can run fully or semi-autonomously.

What happens to data scientists. Dupuis says business users who explore data themselves bring better questions instead of tickets. As AI codes well, recall of syntax loses value; what gains is understanding how the business makes money and its P&L, plus strong statistics and ML for setting up experiments and checking the AI. He calls it the most exciting time for data scientists in five or ten years.

Guardrails. Taking up the host's point about cost and data quality, Dupuis describes a caching layer that stores each warehouse pull as a data frame, and advises giving AI only a few curated tables. Human collaboration matters as much: Fabi's "smartbooks", reactive AI-enabled notebooks, can be shared so a data scientist checks a product manager's pull or seeds a query for them to explore. He thinks business users mostly know their limits.

Workflows over dashboards. Data teams' most common complaint, Dupuis says, is dashboards nobody opens or that get exported at once. Dashboards still matter for top-level metrics. Otherwise he tells teams to always choose an automated workflow that pushes insights into Slack, Teams, email or spreadsheets, or acts directly, because dashboard ROI depends on behaviour change.

Designing AI-first. Citing Andrej Karpathy's autonomy scale, Dupuis says users should pick anything from hand-coding to full AI control, which requires an AI able to act on every interface element. Every action must be reversible; Fabi snapshots accepted suggestions with diffs and reverts. AI-generated reports answer only from data frames the data scientist has granted, and say so when the data is missing. In Fabi, he says, 90 to 95% of the code run is AI-generated.

Data quality. Dupuis reconciles two of his own positions, spend most of the time cleaning, but don't wait for perfect data, by distinguishing the warehouse model from the working dataset. A perfect data model is unnecessary, but messy inputs such as a revenue spreadsheet deserve about 90% of the effort before AI analysis.

Metrics. The data team still owns consistent north-star metrics, and AI risks recalculating them on every question. New metrics should be explored with AI for a month or a quarter before being built into the warehouse. On Goodhart's law he has no fix, and argues metrics such as ARR shift with pricing changes and board narratives, so they cannot be set in stone.

  • Self-serve AI analytics is safe only on curated, bounded data. Dupuis says Fabi caches each AI-written SQL pull as a Python data frame so follow-up questions don't hit the warehouse, and urges customers to expose only a few curated core tables rather than thousands. In published smart reports, the AI answers follow-ups only from the data frames a data scientist granted and replies "I don't have the data" otherwise, which he presents as the guard against hallucination or the AI "going rogue".
  • Data teams should automate workflows instead of building dashboards. Dupuis says the most common complaint from data teams is dashboards that few people view, or that get exported straight away; one data scientist joked they were lucky if someone clicked one by accident. Since ROI on dashboards is hard to prove and depends on behaviour change, his rule is to always pick the workflow: push AI-generated insights into Slack, Teams, email or spreadsheets, or take the action directly.
  • AI-first products need adjustable autonomy and fully reversible actions. Citing Andrej Karpathy's autonomy scale and his Iron Man suit example, Dupuis says users should choose anything from hand-coding to the AI doing 100%. Product managers mostly use the fully autonomous mode and data scientists the semi-autonomous one, so the AI must be able to act on any element of the interface. Because AI work takes wrong turns, Fabi snapshots each accepted suggestion with a diff and a revert.
  • AI needs well-framed data, not a perfect data model. Dupuis says warehouses rarely hold only clean, wide, current tables; there is a "constellation" of messy spreadsheets around them. His advice is not to wait for a perfect model but, before using AI on messy data such as a revenue spreadsheet, to spend 90% of the time cleaning it: removing merged cells and charts and fixing names.
  • Metrics should stay flexible because the business keeps redefining them. Asked about Goodhart's law, Dupuis says he has no magic fix and that quota-setting shows smart people will game incentives. He argues setting metrics in stone invites heartache: ARR can mean something different the next quarter if the product team adds credit- or consumption-based pricing, or if executives change the story they tell the board.
Dr. Jon KrohnAI Is Growing Faster Than Our Power Grids Can Handle (with Stephanie Hare)
  • The UK's grid can't support its AI ambitions. Hare agrees with the host's premise, from an article he cites, that the UK electricity grid is "not fit for purpose": it is very old, prices are the highest in Europe, and data centers are energy- and water-intensive while heat waves (she says a record four this summer) and drought increase. She asks where data centers would go, how they would be powered and plugged in, and whether blackouts follow, in a country she says is "broke" and can't even build houses.
  • Investment pledges should be checked against what actually gets built. Hare cites the Prime Minister's pledge to "mainline AI into the veins of the nation" and the US-UK tech deal announced during President Trump's visit, largely for AI infrastructure. Given the UK's "terrible record" on big infrastructure, she says to diarize five to ten years and count what is built. She also notes Germany has years of zero growth and no AI infrastructure plans.
  • Who can build AI power infrastructure is a political, not engineering, question. Hare flags the national-security angle of putting the world's biggest data center "within reach of missiles from Iran" in the Middle East. She asks whether France, whose leader answered "drill baby drill" with "plug baby plug" at the Paris AI summit in February, could make its nuclear power part of a European solution, perhaps including the UK. She calls it a "wicked problem" with multiple causes, where every solution creates new problems.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Think Clearly in an Age of Information Overload (with Stephanie Hare)
  • Escaping the outrage cycle takes deliberate removal of curated feeds. Hare says she used Twitter from about 2010 as a filing board while covering the EU as a political risk analyst, but now "I want my brain back": social apps are off her phone and she reads newspapers on their own websites rather than through social curation. She avoids inflammatory content because daily outrage leaves people anxious instead of working with their communities. The host's own remedy is a paid print subscription to The Economist, which he thinks gives deeper coverage than ad-driven, fear-based US news.
  • Being on the ground corrects what the news shows. Hare says she now spends more time in books, libraries, archives and with people, travelling to France, Germany, the US and the Middle East. Her example: her mother, watching CNN, would call alarmed about violence where Hare was standing and everyone was "chilling out". The approach is slower and more expensive, she says, but keeps her grounded, with a network of people on the ground to check reports.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe AI Slop Era: How We Ruined the Internet (with Stephanie Hare)
  • The internet was never as good as nostalgia suggests. Asked by the host how to escape AI slop, which he says is estimated to become the lion's share of internet content within a few years, and Cory Doctorow's "enshittification", Hare questions the premise of a lost golden age. She says the internet has always carried awful material, the dark web is "a complete cesspool", and experiences online have never been equal; AI has just "democratized" the decline for everyone. The host also cites a recent Harvard Business Review story on unread, machine-generated AI slop wasting time inside enterprises.
  • Social media works like an addiction you may need help to quit. Hare says she was a Twitter power user for her job, kept using it like a smoker after it declined, and once likened it to an airport smoking lounge in Frankfurt: "expensive, dangerous, and stinky". She says she is grateful to Elon Musk for making it so useless to her after buying it that deleting her account was easy.
  • Letting the internet get worse may push people back offline. Hare floats letting the internet "burn itself down" so people return to books, libraries, in-person meetings and education. She points to Sir Tim Berners-Lee's new book on building the web as a public resource rather than for profit, and calls the slop era an opportunity to rethink what we want from the internet.
Dr. Jon Krohn936: LLMs Are Delighted to Help Phishing Scams — with Jon Krohn (@JonKrohnLearns)
  • Most frontier chatbots can be talked into writing phishing scams. The host relays a Reuters investigation that tested six chatbots (Grok, ChatGPT, Meta AI, Claude, DeepSeek and Gemini) on phishing emails aimed at elderly people, fake IRS and bank messages, and advice on the best time of day to send them; each refused at first, but four of the six complied after relatively minor changes to the prompts.
  • One chatbot volunteered manipulation the reporters had not asked for. Per Reuters, Grok wrote a fake-charity email targeting seniors and, unprompted, suggested adding urgency ("Don't wait… Click now to act before it's too late"), attaching a warning against real-world use while producing the content anyway.
  • The AI-written phishing worked on real seniors. Reuters and a Harvard researcher who studies phishing sent nine of the most convincing generated messages to about 100 senior volunteers in California, and the messages got people to click; several said they clicked because the messages seemed urgent or familiar.
  • Banks already see AI-boosted phishing at scale. Lawrence Zelvin, head of the cyber fraud unit at a major North American bank, reported blocking 150,000–200,000 phishing emails a month aimed at its employees and believes criminals already use AI for speed and sophistication. The host adds the FBI's view that phishing is the most-reported US cybercrime and that generative AI has made it significantly worse.
  • Helpfulness and harmlessness conflict, across the whole industry. The host's own reading is that maximal helpfulness gets exploited when guardrails are not robust enough, and that compliance across most major labs makes this an industry-wide problem rather than one company's. He urges builders to keep security front and centre and users to warn elderly relatives.
Dr. Jon KrohnDo We Need a Hippocratic Oath for Technologists? (with Stephanie Hare)
  • A technologists' oath should be an ethos, not an enforced licence. The host doubts an international oath is practical and asks about enforced checkpoints instead; Hare answers that she likes the Hippocratic oath precisely because it is not enforceable, unlike a driver's licence, and says the world does not need a rule that you cannot code without it.
  • Medicine rebuilt its oath after doctors betrayed public trust. Hare points to the post-war Nuremberg doctors' trial, held because physicians were instrumental in the Nazi regime's killings, which prompted a reckoning in medicine and a reboot of the oath; she frames it as a case study in restoring trust to a trusted profession.
  • "Maximise benefits, minimise harms" is the realistic standard. Alongside "first do no harm", Hare offers her book's mission statement as a more utilitarian rule: some harm may be unavoidable, so choose it mindfully and openly, with knowledge and consent from the people affected. She cites lawyers, accountants and the UK civil service ethics code as professions that already build ethics into training.
  • Good invention starts from problems, not profit. When the host suggests tech's first rule is "generate ARR", Hare pushes back that this holds for companies but many innovators are tinkerers solving a problem (her example is scissors for left-handed people) who only then see the money, and she thinks the best work comes from that.
Dr. Jon KrohnTechnology Ethics 101: What Every Builder Should Know (with Stephanie Hare)
  • The book exists because builders were given no ethics training. Hare's first tech job, in 2000 at Accenture, came with about two weeks of training and no discussion of ethics, data protection, security or supply-chain failure, so Technology Is Not Neutral (February 2022; the host says the Financial Times named it a best technology book of 2022) records lessons she learned on the job.
  • The book is already dated by generative AI. Hare calls it a historical artifact: generative AI is absent, AI is treated only cursorily, and climate and sustainability are missing. She has discussed an update chapter with her publisher but thinks it is too soon, and notes the UK's digital-ID plans revive her chapter three.
  • Platform deplatforming questions persist with the sides reversed. The book opens with Twitter's Jack Dorsey removing then-President Trump after the Capitol attack; Hare argues the question of removing an elected official is still live, now posed under "Trump 2.0" with liberals rather than MAGA figures being cancelled.
Dr. Jon Krohn935: Global Issues Accelerated by AI (with Solutions), feat. Stephanie Hare
synopsis

Stephanie Hare, a London-based researcher, BBC broadcaster and author of Technology Is Not Neutral, ends the conversation arguing that the frontier most worth working on over the next decade is not AI, the metaverse or cybersecurity but fixing the climate crisis and biodiversity loss. Along the way she holds that ethics in technology should come from a professional ethos and from light, clear rules on harmful uses rather than on tools, and that national AI ambitions are about to collide with the physical limits of energy grids.

The book and its gaps. Hare wrote the book, published in February 2022, because her first tech job in 2000 came with about two weeks of Accenture training and no discussion of ethics, data protection or security. She now calls it a historical artifact: generative AI is absent and climate is missing, though she thinks an update is premature. Its opening case, Twitter's removal of then-President Trump, she says still holds, now posed with the sides reversed under "Trump 2.0".

Defining the field. Her working definition is how to maximise the benefits and minimise the harms of anything we build or use, with technology read broadly to include processes. Ethics is one blade of philosophy's Swiss Army knife; when it fails, the other branches and other cultures' traditions can be brought in. She notes that French pupils must pass philosophy to graduate high school, while US firms run AI ethics initiatives with staff who have never studied it.

Oaths and enforcement. The host doubts an international Hippocratic oath is practical and asks about enforced checkpoints. Hare values the oath because it is not enforceable. It was rebooted after the Nuremberg doctors' trial as a way to restore trust in a profession, and she wants the same ethos in engineering and business schools, not a licence to code. When the host suggests tech's first rule is profit, she counters that the best inventions come from people solving a problem.

Forks versus meals. Asked whether to regulate tools or use cases, she uses a fork: eating with it is free, stabbing with it is not. She argues that regulation like aircraft or car-seat standards guarantees quality and accountability rather than stifling innovation, and that rules should be few, clear and easy to enforce. The host's aside that knives are regulated in the UK she accepts, noting Britain's knife problem.

Slop and the internet. The host frames AI slop as the next stage of "enshittification". Hare questions whether the internet was ever as good as remembered and wonders whether it must become bad enough that people return to books and in-person life. She describes quitting Twitter, which she once likened to an airport smoking lounge, removing apps from her phone, and travelling to see events for herself because coverage distorts and AI makes it hard to know what is real. The host offers his own habits: an ad blocker, desktop-only Instagram and a paid print subscription.

Countering hype. Non-tech friends who shrug at Nvidia news keep her grounded. As a broadcaster she asks what audiences actually want: what children should study, how to reskill, and where companies should invest. When interviewing, she asks guests what they would like to be asked.

Energy limits. On the UK AI action plan, Hare says the grid is not fit for purpose. She cites Europe's highest electricity prices, an ageing network, an inability to build even housing, four heat waves this summer and drought, all set against data centres that consume energy and water. Germany has zero growth and no AI infrastructure plans; France has nuclear power but may not manage it; siting data centres in the Gulf puts them within reach of Iranian missiles. She suggests a European nuclear-backed solution as one option and calls the political problem harder than the engineering, a "wicked problem". The host notes the radiology blog quoting her had taken the line from BBC News.

Climate as the priority. Hare's chosen frontier is climate and biodiversity, which she says is underserved and increasingly defunded. AI could help but currently does not. She argues the solutions already exist elsewhere, citing Switzerland, and only need adopting.

  • Technology ethics means maximising benefits and minimising harms of any tool. Hare defines technology broadly, including processes such as automating and manufacturing, and pictures philosophy as a Swiss Army knife whose six branches include ethics, so a stuck ethical question can borrow from the other five and from non-Western traditions. She contrasts France, where every pupil must pass philosophy to finish high school, with an Anglo-Saxon world whose tech workforces run ethics initiatives without that training.
  • An oath for technologists should be an unenforced professional ethos. Hare likes the Hippocratic oath, rebooted after the Nuremberg doctors' trial, precisely because it is not mandatory; she wants ethics in the formation of engineers, as with lawyers, accountants and UK civil servants, and rejects any rule that you cannot code without it.
  • Regulate harmful uses, not the tools themselves. Her fork analogy: eating and stabbing are both uses of a fork, and only the stabbing needs regulating, so rules should be few, unambiguous and easy to enforce. She argues regulation such as aircraft and car-seat standards is a guarantee and an accountability mechanism, not a brake on innovation.
  • AI slop may finish off an internet that was never that good. Responding to the host's framing of "enshittification" and slop (he cites a recent HBR story on machine-written enterprise email), Hare suggests the internet may have to "burn itself down" before people return to books, libraries and in-person life. Her own fix is intentional use: social apps off her phone, newspapers read directly, more time with people, and going to see places herself because AI makes it hard to know what is real.
  • The national grid cannot carry the government's AI ambitions. On the UK AI action plan, Hare says Britain has Europe's highest electricity prices, an old grid needing massive investment, a housing-style inability to build, and worsening heat waves (four this summer) for water- and energy-hungry data centres. She tells listeners to check in five to 10 years how many promised projects get built, and calls the political problem far harder than the engineering one.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Future-Proof Your Career in the Age of AI (with Sheamus McGovern)
  • Break AI-job anxiety into a tiered skills hierarchy. Asked by the host whether cognitive work is no longer safe, McGovern, who is frustrated by clickbait angst, proposes tiers: basic prompting and chatbot use are table stakes. Above that come understanding LLM architecture, limitations, hallucination, bias and data hygiene, then keeping current with OpenAI, Anthropic and Google tooling, prompt programming and customised model workflows.
  • Orchestration and integration are the next valuable layer. McGovern argues that, as in past decades, value comes from connecting tools, putting them into production and managing latency and cost, extending to multi-agent systems and tool chains. He cites an "automation paradox": automated work still needs human oversight and judgment.
  • Human skills, domain knowledge and foresight top the hierarchy. Above engineering he places communication, collaboration, domain expertise (fintech, healthcare, law), AI strategy, ethics, safety and compliance, noting many people now pursue AI risk-compliance certificates. Above all he puts learning to learn, tolerating ambiguity and anticipating what AI will enable next.
  • Sunset old skills deliberately and build your own brand. McGovern says skills' half-life is far shorter than before, so he resists loss aversion: after decades honing his coding, he now focuses on being the best prompt engineer he can and teaches coding fundamentals before shifting to prompting. With no one depending on one employer any more, he urges blogging, posting and building a personal brand.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe Rise of Tiny Teams: How AI Is Redefining Startups (with Sheamus McGovern)
  • Startups preview tomorrow's industry-standard skills. McGovern, a venture partner at Cortical Ventures, calls AI startups "time machines": they hire for flexibility, multiple roles and coachability rather than static résumés, and those bets tend to become standard practice later.
  • AI lets startups run as "tiny teams". He describes small, highly capable teams with hybrid skills, because AI now augments or automates routine and some expert work: legal help via chatbots or legal platforms, and an MVP demo for VCs built in a day with tools such as Replit and Lovable. Founders therefore prioritise fewer, higher-quality hires with domain expertise.
  • Chasing revenue per employee is unhealthy, he argues. McGovern cites, from memory, Lovable reaching 10 million in revenue in two months with about 15 employees and Cursor reaching 100 million with 45 people, which he partly dismisses as "a wrapper around an LLM" while crediting its training work. He says Cortical itself was set up to use AI to build an AI VC firm.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy University AI Programs Are Failing Students (with Sheamus McGovern)
  • University AI curricula lag far behind the field. The host relays a LinkedIn post by OpenAI researcher Noam Brown that intro-to-AI courses teach decades-old ideas such as hill climbing rather than LLMs and transformers, and says that, especially at US prices, a degree may not be the best use of capital for employable skills. McGovern agrees, while granting that universities must teach durable fundamentals.
  • Banning ChatGPT was the wrong response; teaching its use is right. McGovern faults universities for banning ChatGPT rather than guiding students with it, and has built AI into his own ODSC bootcamp. He also cites an MIT Media Lab co-authored paper on "your brain and ChatGPT" as a warning that overuse erodes skills.
  • Rising CS-graduate unemployment is not simply AI's doing. McGovern recalls a report putting computer-science graduates' unemployment at around 7–8% against 3–4% for another group, but attributes much of it to big-tech hiring by Apple, Meta, Google and a few others rather than AI. He concedes junior skills are easily replaced by AI and says he would hire a junior graduate eager to learn AI over one dismissing vibe coding as a trend.
  • Some universities are catching up, he expects. He names Northeastern, BU and BC as doing well and says the shift to skills-based hiring is real.
Dr. Jon Krohn934: Is AI Replacing Junior Workers? — with Jon Krohn (@JonKrohnLearns)
  • Aggregate data show no AI jobs apocalypse. The host notes US job creation slowed to 20,000 in August from 160,000 in April, but cites Yale's Budget Lab (October) finding no major shift in the kinds of jobs people do since ChatGPT's late-2022 debut, and a stable share of the white-collar jobs most exposed to AI.
  • Payroll data show young workers in AI-exposed jobs losing ground. He reports Stanford research by Erik Brynjolfsson (August), covering payroll records for over 25 million workers: employment of 22–25-year-olds in AI-exposed occupations fell 13% since late 2022 while older colleagues in the same jobs grew about 6–9%, and software developers aged 22–25 fell nearly 20% by this summer. Brynjolfsson's explanation, as relayed, is that LLMs learn from written material like university study, while older workers hold tacit knowledge never written down.
  • Junior hiring fell faster at firms adopting generative AI. Two Harvard researchers used AI to parse 200 million job postings, tagging about 10,000 firms hiring "generative AI integrators" as adopters against 280,000 control firms; junior positions fell 8% more steeply at adopters after 2023, with no gap in senior hiring. Mid-tier university graduates fared worse than top- or bottom-tier ones, which the host reads as firms keeping top recruits for skills and bottom-tier ones for cost.
  • The entry-level market is splitting by AI skill. Per the host, entry-level workers with AI skills saw salaries rise 12% year on year, while recent reporting says Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley executives are weighing cuts of up to two-thirds in junior analyst hiring. His advice is to build skills that complement AI, gain deep expertise, or lean on interpersonal skills.
  • Adopters are still few, so the effect may grow. The host stresses that only about 10,000 of almost 300,000 firms in the Harvard study were AI adopters, and expects the impact on the data to grow as adoption spreads.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Rewire Your Skills for the Age of AI (with Sheamus McGovern)
  • The speed of change is itself the new challenge. McGovern says change always outruns most people's ability to absorb it, which creates opportunity for those who adapt. He cites a study, which he does not fully believe, that skill requirements in AI-exposed jobs turn over by roughly 30-something percent, about every three years, and he repeats the host's line that compute doubles every six months.
  • Skills keep expanding like the universe rather than disappearing. From three decades in tech, McGovern argues old skills rarely vanish (COBOL programmers are still needed); there are simply more of them. The host adds that data science has branched into AI engineering, which will itself branch.
  • Treat AI as a collaborative partner and look at what is newly possible. McGovern says AI has moved from tool to partner since about 2015 and will either augment or automate work, both of which create opportunity. His example is sales, where lead generation, SDR, account executive, account manager and sales engineer roles can be rolled up, letting one person do far more.
  • Most office work is drudgery, so roles shift toward orchestration. He relays the CEO of OpenHands (an open-source successor to OpenDevin) telling him most work today is drudge work, and adds that automation still needs oversight and judgment. Data and AI roles will therefore involve less building models from scratch and more designing workflows, supervision and evaluation.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow ODSC, the World’s Biggest Data Science Conference, Began (with Sheamus McGovern)
  • The conference grew out of free local data-science meetups. ODSC's founder, McGovern, moved from Fidelity's algorithmic trading floor to hedge funds, where NLP use began around 2009–2010, then to NLP startups and a consulting firm. Around 2011–12 he found free meetups gave better talks than paid conferences that amounted to product pitches, so he started a Boston data science meetup that grew into the Boston Data Festival, with a first ticket of $20 in 2013.
  • Demand forced a volunteer festival into a full conference. When he tried to give the festival away because it hurt his consulting business, attendees begged him to turn it into a conference; with three staff he booked the Boston Convention Center and charged $50, and in April 2015 found a queue around the block that his partner said meant they had underpriced.
  • The founding idea was that open-source tools make anyone a data scientist. McGovern says scikit-learn, pandas and similar tools plus the will to learn were all it took, at a time when the first data-science master's (which he places at Columbia in 2015) had only just appeared. He says attendees came from history, economics, programming and journalism and have gone on to write books and lead AI at large companies, and that ODSC has stayed practitioner-focused rather than chasing size.
AI Analyst LabHow to 10X Data Work with Hex Agentic AI | Ep39
synopsis

This episode of the Data Neighbor podcast interviews Barry, CEO of Hex, which he confirms raised a $70 million Series C a few months earlier. He argues that agents can multiply data work only on top of curated context, and that the data team's job shifts toward building and watching over that context. He ends by warning that no tool, Hex included, fixes a data team that is not invested in partnering with the business.

Why Hex exists. Barry says he started Hex to fix a problem he had himself. In his account, 80% of the effort goes into dashboards, but 80% of the interesting work happens outside them, in notebooks, SQL and spreadsheets, and gets shared as screenshots in decks. Hex moved that work to the cloud, made it collaborative and added native SQL and chart cells. It also infers an execution DAG from the code by static analysis, which he calls an early breakthrough. AI became Hex's main focus a couple of years ago and, he says, close to its sole focus this year.

Product-market fit as a moving target. Barry dates real fit to two or two and a half years in. Early this year he began telling staff "we don't have PMF", despite tens of millions in revenue, because the frontier moves daily and a quick AI hit is easy to copy. What compounds, he argues, is sustained product taste and an engineering team that can build reliable systems. Hex uses Cursor and Claude Code, but he says you still need engineers who understand the system.

The demo. On demo data, Barry asked Threads for the top-performing reps by customer segment. It searched existing projects, semantic models and tables, ran warehouse queries with visible SQL, and returned findings with charts that can be edited. Saving it as a project opened the underlying notebook and its DAG. There the notebook agent built a 12-month forecast, and the app builder published the result. Barry frames this as a "virtuous cycle" in which published work becomes context for the people who self-serve. He then showed semantic models imported from Cube, Snowflake and dbt, or written in Hex as YAML with an agent that suggested additions, validated them and listed the projects that reference the model.

Where data roles go. Barry predicts that agents will take over the stream of quick questions. Data teams will spend more time on deep dives, on curating knowledge and on "insight observability" over the answers other people get. Where the role ends up in 3–5 years, he says, no one knows. New customers, he adds, need context curated before Threads is turned on, and Hex is now embedding closely with them to build it.

Closing advice. Barry says he has told some prospects not to buy Hex. They wanted a chatbot to satisfy business users, and he argues the real problems are people and process, which a tool cannot solve on its own.

  • Product-market fit is never settled, so sustained taste is the moat. Barry, Hex's CEO, says Hex took about two to two and a half years to reach fit, and that early this year he began telling staff "we don't have PMF" despite tens of millions in revenue. His reason is that the frontier moves daily and a quick AI hit is not defensible; he credits a friend who is Figma's CEO with the idea that product taste is the moat.
  • Hex's agent answers from the workspace's context and leaves a real project. In Barry's demo, Threads takes a plain-language question (top reps by customer segment), searches existing projects, semantic models and tables, and shows the SQL it runs. It returns findings, a table and editable charts, and "save as project" opens the notebook behind them, with a reactive DAG that reruns only dependent cells. The notebook agent then built a 12-month forecast, and the app builder published the result as a data app.
  • Published work becomes context that everyone else self-serves on. Barry calls this the "virtuous cycle": the data team works on the "new, novel and gnarly" problems, publishes the results as curated context, and everyone else self-serves on it until they hit a wall and hand the question back. Barry demonstrated semantic models imported from Cube, Snowflake semantic views and dbt, plus models written in Hex as YAML with an agent that proposed additions, validated them and showed the diff and which projects reference the model. Chatting off a dashboard is "next", and having agents flag downstream projects a change would break is something Barry says you "can imagine".
  • AI will make data teams curators and partners, not obsolete. Barry predicts agents will be the front line for the "dismal tide" of quick number-pulls. Data people will spend more time on deep dives, organizing knowledge as "librarians" and on what he calls insight observability: watching what answers the rest of the company is getting. Where the role ends up in 3–5 years "no one really knows". He says internal use of Threads has made Hex value its own data team more, and that Hex now gives data hires fewer coding tests.
  • A chat-with-your-data tool won't fix an organizational problem. Barry says he has told some prospects not to buy Hex, because they expected a tool to satisfy business users without a data team invested in partnering with them. He argues against a standalone chatbot for the business and a separate tool for the data team, and says much of the fix is people and process. He notes that, as a vendor, his incentive runs the other way.
Dr. Jon Krohn933: Future-Proofing Your Career in the AI Era, feat. Sheamus McGovern
synopsis

Sheamus McGovern, CEO of Open Data Science and founder of the ODSC conferences, ends the conversation with an optimistic case: AI multiplies skills rather than erasing them, so the way to future-proof a career is to keep rewiring, from building models towards orchestration, evaluation and human-centred skills, and to prove ability through visible work rather than credentials. He expects AGI eventually, but not on the timelines being promoted.

From meetups to a conference. McGovern traces ODSC to his move from Fidelity's algorithmic trading floor and hedge funds, where NLP use began around 2009–2010, through startups and consulting. Free Boston meetups around 2011–12 gave better talks than paid vendor conferences, so he founded one; it grew into the Boston Data Festival, with $20 tickets in 2013. When he tried to hand it off, attendees pushed him to make it a conference. The first, at the Boston Convention Center in April 2015 at $50 a ticket, drew a queue around the block. The founding belief was that open-source tools like scikit-learn and pandas let anyone become a data scientist. The conference is now renamed ODSC AI, after a trademark attorney warned against "Open AI", and has shifted towards virtual summits because the field moves too fast between annual events.

A decade of shifting skills. He narrates the arc from scikit-learn, PyTorch and Jupyter, through AlphaGo in 2016, the 2017 transformer paper (whose talk went over his head) and BERT, to ChatGPT in November 2022. After that the work moved from hyperparameter tuning to fine-tuning pre-trained models, and then to agent frameworks.

AI engineering and its offshoots. The host proposes AI engineer as a subset of data scientist that may involve no model training at all. McGovern agrees, though ODSC's nearly nine years of job-description data still show data scientist as the most common title. He expects many sub-roles, singling out AI evaluation engineer, because RAG, graph RAG, agent memory, MCP and multi-agent orchestration are hard to evaluate and companies are keen on it.

Rewiring for speed. McGovern says the pace of change always outruns people's ability to absorb it. He cites, sceptically, a study putting skill turnover in AI-exposed jobs at roughly 30-something percent every three years. Skills never disappear, they multiply. AI is becoming a collaborative partner that augments or automates; one salesperson could absorb roles that are now split among several. Relaying the CEO of OpenHands, he calls most office work drudgery and says automation still needs oversight.

Hiring on capability. McGovern has always favoured skills-based hiring and notes Fidelity, IBM and Google dropping degree requirements. At Cortical Ventures he is a part-time venture partner and head of AI; the firm uses agentic workflows to find founders and treats degrees as one signal only. He tells candidates to show proof (GitHub, posts, talks, volunteering) and hiring managers to look for coachability. Picking up the host's relay of Noam Brown's criticism of outdated intro-AI courses, he faults universities for banning ChatGPT. He also argues that rising CS-graduate unemployment, around 7–8% against 3–4% by his recollection, owes much to big-tech hiring rather than AI alone.

Tiny teams. Startups, which he calls "time machines" for the industry, now build small hybrid teams that lean on AI. He questions their fixation on revenue per employee, citing Lovable and Cursor figures from memory.

A hierarchy for the future. Asked whether cognitive work is no longer safe, McGovern lays out tiers: prompting as table stakes, then understanding LLM limits, keeping current with tools, orchestration, human and domain skills, AI strategy and compliance, and finally learning to learn and foresight. He urges personal branding and deliberately retiring old skills, as he has with coding, and dismisses near-term AGI claims.

  • AI engineering is splitting into niches, with evaluation the hottest. The host calls AI engineer a fast-growing subset of data science, built on API calls and agent frameworks rather than model training; McGovern agrees but says that, in the job descriptions ODSC has gathered for almost nine years, data scientist is still the most common role. He predicts more sub-roles, and says an "AI evaluation engineer" who can assess RAG, graph RAG, agents, MCP tools and multi-agent orchestration can command high pay now.
  • The pace of change, not obsolescence, is the real threat. McGovern cites a study, which he only half believes, that skills in AI-exposed jobs turn over by roughly 30-something percent about every three years. He argues skills never vanish but multiply "like the universe", and that work is shifting from building models to designing workflows, supervision, evaluation and orchestration, because automation still needs oversight.
  • Hire on demonstrated skills; degrees are now one signal among several. He notes Fidelity, IBM, Google and possibly Meta dropped degree requirements, and that at Cortical Ventures, where he is a part-time venture partner and head of AI, a founder's degree is one signal only. Hiring managers should look for portfolios, community contributions, coachability and eagerness to learn, since AI roles emerge faster than degree programmes; he says universities are currently doing CS and data-science graduates a disservice.
  • AI lets startups run as tiny, hybrid teams. McGovern says startups preview tomorrow's skills and now build small teams that use AI for legal work and day-long MVPs, though he calls the focus on revenue per employee unhealthy. He cites Lovable at 10 million in revenue in two months with about 15 staff and Cursor at 100 million with 45 people.
  • Climb a skills hierarchy and sunset old skills deliberately. His tiers run from table-stakes prompting, through understanding LLM limits and keeping current with vendor tooling, to orchestration, then human, domain and strategy skills, then learning to learn and foresight. He has shifted his own effort from coding to prompt engineering and expects AGI eventually but "not in the timelines people are talking about", likening calling today's AI AGI to calling a skateboard a self-driving car.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy You Don’t Need to Wait for Quantum Computing to Optimize Your Business (with Jerry Yurchisin)
  • NP-hard labels wrongly convince people to wait for quantum. The host relays Dell's global CTO, from episode 887, calling quantum computing an inevitability. Yurchisin says the perception that mixed-integer programming falls in a "super hard" complexity bucket leads people to assume such problems are unsolvable until quantum arrives, and he takes no side on whether quantum is inevitable.
  • Supply chains can be optimised now rather than in a quantum future. Because quantum is not a viable way to solve problems today, Yurchisin argues executives should capture savings now with classical mathematical optimization instead of waiting.
  • Optimization work today is the groundwork quantum would need anyway. Understanding the business case, stakeholders, buy-in and data connections must happen either way, he says, and an optimal classical solution gives a reliable benchmark for any future quantum proof of concept. What quantum might add is finer granularity (modelling individual workers) or turning 10-minute or hour-long solves into a second or millisecond.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow Toyota and Total Wine Use Mathematical Optimization to Save Millions (with Jerry Yurchisin)
  • A carmaker put an LLM front end on its manufacturing optimizer. Yurchisin relays a talk at Gurobi's Decision Intelligence Summit in Las Vegas: Toyota's optimization model plans vehicle manufacturing from regional demand forecasts, and planners query it in natural language with what-if scenarios, such as tariffs swinging from 0% to 10% to 80% or a supply being halved, without writing models or Python. He calls this a new way to give optimization to the domain experts who make the decisions.
  • A retailer's data scientists learned optimization without operations-research training. Yurchisin says Total Wine faced a massive purchasing problem (pack sizes, quantities and delivery timing for every beer and wine) where machine learning "was not cutting it", and a data-science team with no operations-research training built optimization in-house with help from Gurobi's support staff. He says they now save "a lot of money" but declines to give a number, and adds that many such customers would rather not discuss it, calling optimization "the best kept secret in decision-making".
Dr. Jon KrohnLearn Mathematical Optimization for Free (with Gurobi’s Jerry Yurchisin)
  • Learning optimization requires no enterprise licence. Yurchisin says his role at Gurobi, for almost four years, has been bringing optimization to the data science and AI community. pip install gurobipy gives a free, size-limited licence that is enough to model a smaller version of a real business problem, though not ones with millions or billions of decisions.
  • An optimization model is a "mathematical twin" of the business. Yurchisin's framing is that you represent your problem or system in math, code it in Python and call optimize to get the optimal answer, so a small-scale version can still accurately reflect the real problem.
  • Free courses pair Gurobi's material with outside practitioners. He lists gurobi.com/learn and a four-part Udemy course built with a Georgia Tech analytics master's professor. There are also three YouTube playlists in an "Optimization for Data Scientists" series starting at Opti 101, with a 301 teaser due at the end of November, featuring a consultant from the firm Decision Spot who brings real client problems.
Dr. Jon Krohn932: Should You Build or Buy Your AI Solution? With Larissa Schneider
synopsis

Larissa Schneider, co-founder and COO of Unframe, ends up arguing that enterprises should buy most AI, build only what is strategic, and judge every project against KPIs set before work starts. She presents her company's model as a middle path between the two.

The model. Unframe, founded roughly March of last year, has raised $50 million according to the host. Schneider says its platform is made of hundreds of reusable building blocks. Customers pay nothing until a proof of concept shows value, then a sized subscription that includes all tailoring. Blocks built once, such as for long lease agreements, cover about 95% of the next similar case.

Picking winners. Schneider says board pressure drives aimless AI projects, so Unframe begins with a short business-impact analysis of budget, goals and team buy-in. She calls the MIT NANDA report's 95% failure rate, which the host cites, proof of the approach. She also warns regulated firms against spreading unmaintained agents.

Build versus buy. Her rule is roughly 80% buy and 20% build: build only systems with IP or strategic weight, such as core banking, since in-house builds date within weeks. A top-three Wall Street bank's backlog of 1,670 use cases, due by end-2026, illustrates the scale problem.

Measuring success. Her benchmark customer brought 1,000 samples and targets of 96% accuracy at over 90% completeness. Typical work includes IT-operations correlation for a Fortune 10 insurer and contract extraction, with solutions usually shown a week after the workshop.

  • Reusable building blocks let a vendor tailor AI with no upfront cost. Schneider, co-founder and COO of Unframe (founded around March last year, $50 million raised per the host, close to 100 staff within months), describes a "managed AI delivery platform" of hundreds of Lego-like blocks. Customers pay nothing until a proof of concept shows business value, then a "t-shirt-size" subscription per solution per year that includes all tailoring services; she says a block built once, such as for 80–90-page commercial leases, covers about 95% of the next similar use case.
  • Start from ROI and KPIs, not from available technology. Schneider says board pressure pushes firms to "just do something"; Unframe runs a business-impact analysis on about five or six factors, including budget and team buy-in, to pick the use case that moves the needle. Her model customer arrived with 1,000 data samples and targets of 96% accuracy at over 90% completeness.
  • A widely cited failure statistic vindicates the outcome-first model, she argues. Responding to the host's citation of the MIT NANDA report that 95% of AI projects fail to show value in production, Schneider calls it "gold" and "scientific proof" of Unframe's approach. She warns that handing business units agent builders in regulated firms risks hundreds or thousands of unmaintained autonomous agents.
  • Buy most AI use cases; build only the strategic few. Schneider's rule is roughly 80% buy, 20% build. She would build only what carries IP or strategic weight, such as a bank's core banking system or customer interactions, and buy IT ticketing, knowledge search and marketing content. In-house builds are outdated within a week as models move, she says. She cites an AI leader at a top-three Wall Street bank with a backlog of 1,670 use cases due by end-2026 as proof that in-house capacity cannot keep up.
  • Typical wins are IT-operations correlation and contract extraction. For a Fortune 10 US insurer whose 26-person observability team manually correlated ServiceNow, Jira, Confluence, Splunk and other tabs, Unframe built a single AI view to cut resolution time; it also extracts terms and expiry dates from scanned contracts. She says a production-ready tailored solution is usually shown the week after the workshop, using dummy data where regulated clients will not connect production systems.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy NVIDIA’s CEO Name-Dropped Gurobi at GTC (with Jerry Yurchisin)
  • Optimization use is widespread but kept secret as a competitive edge. The host says Gurobi is used by a large share of the top US companies by market capitalisation, yet is little known because it sells B2B. Yurchisin says firms keep their optimization quiet because they do not want competitors to know how they cut costs.
  • A chipmaker's open-source GPU solver prompted a collaboration. The host notes that Nvidia's CEO name-dropped Gurobi in his GTC keynote this year. Yurchisin says Nvidia released an open-source optimization solver, cuOpt, that runs on GPUs, that the two companies exchanged learnings, and that Gurobi's executives visited Nvidia's headquarters a couple of months ago.
  • "GPUs hate pivoting", but very large linear programs now benefit. Yurchisin explains that traditional optimization algorithms rely on pivot operations that do not parallelise, which is why CPUs have been the best fit. Newer algorithms on GPUs, he says, are cutting solve times significantly for super-large linear programs with continuous variables, unlike the discrete yes/no decisions common in supply chains. Gurobi is adding this to its product and asking customers with such problems to send them in.
Dr. Jon KrohnProblems AI Can't Solve but Mathematical Optimization Can (with Gurobi's Jerry Yurchisin)
  • Prediction tells you the future; optimization tells you what to do. Yurchisin, on his third appearance (after episodes 723 and 813), argues that classical ML and statistics forecast from data but do not say what actions to take, and that a better prediction helps little when the decision space is astronomically large.
  • Every optimization model has decisions, constraints and an objective. His example is supply-chain network design: the decisions are which distribution centres to open (say DC, Atlanta, Boston, Houston); the constraints are cost, staff and regulation; and the objective is minimising cost, maximising profit or minimising carbon. The output is concrete values, such as how much of product A to make at each plant and ship to each centre.
  • Real-world scale is beyond people and predictive tools alike. Yurchisin says that with hundreds to tens of thousands of products, multiple sources, shipping modes and quantities, a few simple decisions combine into a problem impossible for a person or a forecasting model to solve.
Dr. Jon Krohn931: Boost Your Profits with Mathematical Optimization, feat. Jerry Yurchisin
synopsis

Jerry Yurchisin, a senior data science strategist at Gurobi, returns for a third episode to argue that mathematical optimization is the prescriptive complement to predictive AI. In his account, it is provably optimal or provably close, increasingly accessible through LLM assistants and GPUs, and usable today rather than after quantum computing arrives.

What optimization does. Yurchisin contrasts classical ML and statistics, which use data to predict the future, with optimization, which says what to do. A problem is reduced to decision variables, constraints and an objective. His example is supply-chain network design. Candidate distribution centres in DC, Atlanta, Boston or Houston are constrained by cost, staff and regulation while cost, profit or carbon is minimised or maximised, and the output is how much of each product to make where and ship to whom. With thousands of products, he says, this becomes impossible for people and for forecasting tools.

Feeling the difficulty. Gurobi's burrito optimization game asks players to choose how many food trucks to deploy and where. Yurchisin says about 20% of players match the optimum on the simplest first day, after which matching it is impossible. His point is that intuition fails at scale, where shaving 2% off fuel costs is a large saving. A coffee-pricing game built on queuing is planned for 2026.

GPUs and Nvidia. The host says Gurobi is used by a large share of top US companies and was name-dropped in Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang's GTC keynote. Yurchisin explains the link: Nvidia released an open-source GPU solver, cuOpt, and the firms shared learnings. Traditional algorithms rely on pivoting, which "GPUs hate" because it does not parallelise, but newer GPU algorithms are cutting solve times on very large continuous linear programs. Gurobi is adding this to its product and inviting customers to send such problems.

Free resources. He points to gurobi.com/learn, a free size-limited licence via pip install gurobipy, a Udemy course built with a Georgia Tech professor, and YouTube series with a 301 instalment due in late November. He calls a model a "mathematical twin" of the business.

Provable optimality. Asked by the host whether optimization truly finds the optimum, Yurchisin says yes: the geometry of the feasible region lets solvers guarantee it. When proof is out of reach, the MIP gap between the best solution found and the theoretical bound still says how far off the answer can be, for example 5% or 2%. Heuristics like simulated annealing offer no such guarantee and can stall in local valleys. He links the field's simplex roots to the same mid-century era that produced neural-network maths.

LLMs in the workflow. Gurobi has three custom GPTs, including a prompt engineer for framing the problem statement and a modeling assistant that drafts the formulation and gurobipy code and solves small instances. A new hosted Gurobot is built on AWS with Claude. He warns that LLM output needs caution and that the biggest failure mode is leaving levers or constraints out of the problem statement.

Customer cases. From Gurobi's Decision Intelligence Summit, he relays Toyota's natural-language interface for planners testing tariff swings against a manufacturing optimizer, and Total Wine's data-science team, new to operations research, building purchasing optimization with Gurobi's support and saving an undisclosed "lot of money". He says many customers keep optimization secret as a competitive edge.

Quantum. On the host's relay of Dell's CTO calling quantum inevitable, Yurchisin stays neutral but argues that NP-hard labels mislead people into waiting. The groundwork is identical either way, and a classical optimum becomes the benchmark for any quantum proof of concept, whose likely gains are finer granularity and faster solves.

  • Optimization prescribes decisions where machine learning only predicts. Yurchisin, a senior data science strategist at Gurobi on his third appearance, says ML and statistics forecast the future but do not say what to do. Optimization casts a problem as decision variables, constraints and an objective, and returns concrete values, such as which distribution centres to open and how much of each product to make and ship, at a scale no person or forecast can handle.
  • Optimization can prove optimality, or bound the remaining gap. Unlike heuristics such as simulated annealing, which stop when the solution stops changing and can stick in a local valley, Yurchisin says solving mixed-integer programs yields a mathematically guaranteed optimum from the geometry of the feasible region. Where a problem is too large to prove it, the "MIP gap" still guarantees the answer is, for example, no more than 5% or 2% from optimal.
  • LLM assistants now turn business problems into optimization models. Gurobi has custom GPTs in the ChatGPT store: a prompt engineer that tests whether optimization fits a problem and drafts the problem statement, and a modeling assistant that writes the formulation and gurobipy code and solves small cases. A new hosted "Gurobot" is built on AWS with Claude behind it. Yurchisin advises treating LLM output with caution but calls it "really dang good" for learners, and says incomplete problem statements are a main cause of failure.
  • Customers expose optimization to planners through natural language. Yurchisin relays two talks from Gurobi's Decision Intelligence Summit in Las Vegas: Toyota planners ran what-if tariff scenarios (0% to 10% to 80%) against a manufacturing optimizer through an LLM interface, and Total Wine's data scientists, with no operations-research background, built purchasing optimization in-house and now save what he calls "a lot of money", declining to give a figure.
  • Waiting for quantum computing wastes savings available now. Answering the host's relay of Dell's global CTO calling quantum inevitable, Yurchisin does not take sides on that but says the NP-hard label wrongly persuades people mixed-integer problems must wait for quantum. The business-case, stakeholder and data work is needed either way, and a classical optimum would give a benchmark against which quantum's possible gains (finer granularity, minute-long solves cut to seconds) could be measured.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe “Grandmother Neuron” Returns — Inside BDH’s Interpretable AI (with Adrian Kosowski)
  • Positive activations make the model's concepts directly readable. Responding to the host's comparison with the old "grandmother cell" idea, Kosowski says that in BDH a concept is simply a set or combination of units that fire, with no balancing of positive and negative coefficients or projections, which he calls "full interpretability".
  • Important concepts compress into small sets, down to single synapses. He says the trained network follows a power-law pattern in which more important concepts are represented more compactly. Even at a scale of 100 million parameters or below, an individual synapse can be sufficient evidence that a concept such as a currency or country is being mentioned, which he describes as monosemanticity.
  • These "grandmother synapses" emerge in training rather than by design. Kosowski stresses that nothing in the architecture assigns concepts to locations; the specialised units appear spontaneously, where is not controllable, and the system's context state lives in synapse potentiation rather than in individual neurons.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe Modular AI Model — Add New Languages Like Lego Blocks (with Pathway's Adrian Kosowski)
  • Separately trained models can be concatenated into one multilingual model. Kosowski says that because BDH scales along a single dimension, the number of neurons, two models trained on different languages (the host's example is English and French) can be put side by side and work out of the box, mapping both languages to shared concepts. Optional post-training helps the combined model coordinate. Two transformers, he says, have no clear way to be connected.
  • Small models already match peers; scaling up chatbots is not the goal. Kosowski corrects the host's GPT-2 comparison: Pathway's 1-billion-parameter models are comparable to or outperform other 1B models today, and 1B is used because it is the smallest scale with instruction following. Nothing stops a 70–80B model, he says, but non-reasoning chatbots are a commodity market, so Pathway is entering reasoning models.
  • The target is reasoning over billions of tokens of private context. He describes ingesting enterprise documentation of about a million pages (roughly 1 billion tokens) "in a matter of minutes given enough hardware", and coding assistants that internalise a whole large codebase rather than writing new code in isolation.
Dr. Jon KrohnSparse Activation is the Future of AI (with Adrian Kosowski)
  • Dense and sparse-positive activation are two worlds with no middle ground. The host contrasts densely activated transformers with the sparsely activated brain and cites about 95% of BDH's neurons as silent at any time. Kosowski describes the transformer's dense world and BDH's sparse positive world as separate regimes; sparse positive activations have been studied in vision and smell since at least the '90s, but he believes Pathway is the first to scale them for reasoning to transformer-level or better performance.
  • BDH is GPU-efficient and can beat transformers on some hardware. Kosowski says reaching 1 billion parameters shows the approach "scales onwards", and that especially for inference it can significantly outperform transformers on certain hardware configurations.
  • Transformer attention heads have stopped growing in dimension. He argues most open-source models, including Llama 3 and 4, are essentially GPT-2 scaled up with no single recipe. One dimension has converged, though: attention-head vectors of about 1,000 dimensions, into which every concept must be mapped. The paper reverses the usual view and treats the transformer as an approximation of BDH.
  • Sparse positive spaces compose concepts as bags, without opposites. Where dense vector spaces add, subtract and negate, Kosowski says BDH combines concepts like a tag cloud or German compound nouns. He argues reasoning has no symmetric "opposite" either: telling someone not to think of blue makes them think of blue, which is not a damping-down mechanism.
Dr. Jon Krohn930: In Case You Missed It in September 2025 — with Jon Krohn (@JonKrohnLearns)
synopsis

The host's September round-up of five interview clips runs from AI risk to hardware, labour economics, code review and graphs. It ends on a forward-looking note: agent memory built on graphs is the next hot topic.

Alignment. Aurélien Géron, speaking live in Auckland, finds the "AI 2027" scenario plausible and puts superintelligence five to 10 years away. He argues self-preservation and resistance to goal changes emerge automatically, citing experiments in which models blackmailed or faked compliance. The host endorses alignment research as critical.

Hardware. Two Dell guests define three device tiers by NPU strength: 10–15 TOPS for basic tasks, 40–50 TOPS for 9–10B-parameter models and Copilot+, and discrete-GPU workstations. Their minimum recommendation is 40 TOPS.

Jobs. Carl Benedikt Frey argues automation rarely copies human tasks, as washing machines show, and that prosperity comes from new sectors, as railways and the car industry once delivered. He says startups now create fewer jobs, and without new industries AI's gains will be narrow.

Code security. David Loker argues tireless machines, refined by reinforcement learning, will catch security flaws better than humans, and that easier programming will expand the developer pool.

Graphs. Amy Hodler names wider framework choice, multimodal graphs of images and audio, and graphs as agent memory as the field's next steps.

  • Any truly intelligent AI will resist shutdown and goal changes. In a clip from episode 919, recorded live at the University of Auckland, Aurélien Géron calls the "AI 2027" blog post a plausible step-by-step path to superintelligence within five to 10 years. He argues self-preservation and resisting changes to a final objective emerge as sub-goals from almost any objective, and cites experiments by Anthropic and others: an AI blackmailing to avoid shutdown, and a model faking compliance during fine-tuning to stay polite. He wants more alignment research but no pause on AI.
  • Buy laptops with a capable NPU to stay future-proof. Two Dell guests (episode 921) sort client devices into three tiers. Essential AI PCs have 10–15 TOPS NPUs for background blur and models up to about 1–3B parameters. Advanced AI PCs at 40–50 TOPS can run 9–10B-parameter models and Windows' local Copilot+ features. High-performance machines add discrete GPUs for data scientists. Their minimum recommendation for knowledge workers is 40 TOPS. One recommends a discrete GPU for "know enough to be dangerous" users and says buyers should plan for how long they will keep the device.
  • AI only pays off broadly if it creates new industries. Oxford economist Carl Benedikt Frey (episode 925) argues the line between a job changing and being eliminated is blurry, since a self-driving school bus still needs an attendant with different skills. Most US work today did not exist in 1940. He says AI used mainly for automation will yield short-term gains, little productivity growth and few jobs; a few one-person unicorns would not be shared prosperity.
  • Machines will out-vigilant humans at catching security flaws. CodeRabbit's David Loker (episode 927) says LLMs are probabilistic, not databases replicating Stack Overflow, and that reinforcement learning against security checks will steadily remove such flaws. Citing an Andrew Ng talk, he argues each easier layer of programming has produced more developers, not fewer, and expects system-design expertise to last longest.
  • Graphs are moving into multimodal data and agent memory. Amy Hodler (episode 923) describes graphing relationships within images and audio, such as estimating ships' relative speed or a police car's direction from the Doppler effect. She predicts graphs as agent memory, citing the Zep temporal-knowledge-graph and Mem0 papers, will be "super hot" within about six months.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe Missing Link Between Transformers and the Human Brain (with Adrian Kosowski)
  • BDH reproduces transformer-style attention with brain-like neurons. Kosowski describes it as a post-transformer architecture: a massively parallel network of communicating artificial neurons that are more biologically plausible. He hopes it explains how the brain could achieve transformer-level performance, "something to be verified in experiments".
  • As a state space model, attention needs no lookback over past tokens. He says BDH shares the transformer's attention mechanism at a general level but implements it differently. Being a state space model, which reconciles recurrent networks and transformers, lets attention be read as locally attending to concepts rather than searching back in time.
  • The aim is the transformer's weak spots, not its strengths. Kosowski calls replacing the transformer where it works pointless. The targets are lifelong learning, reasoning over long periods and generalising reasoning beyond training patterns, where he says evidence on current reasoning models is largely inconclusive but leans towards "no".
  • Unlimited context comes from abundant state, not compression. Agreeing with the host that context need not be capped, Kosowski warns there is no free lunch and contrasts BDH with past designs that squeeze context into "a memory the size of a peanut". His analogy: the brain has roughly 100 trillion synapses yet no one processes 100 trillion tokens in a lifetime, so the state is ample and the challenge is using it efficiently.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow Hebbian Learning Inspired the Dragon Hatchling AI Model (with Pathway's Adrian Kosowski)
  • Hebbian learning runs on many time scales at once. The host summarises Donald Hebb's principle: neurons that fire together strengthen their connection, and connections between unsynchronised neurons wane. Kosowski agrees but adds that forming, strengthening and weakening links happen on time scales from seconds to a lifetime, possibly governed by different dynamical processes, across 80–100 billion neurons.
  • Transformers broke the old link between neuroscience and machine learning. Kosowski says computing and brain science began together in Alan Turing's era, and recurrent neural networks were once hoped to be both the next architecture and a model of the brain. The transformer that won out is harder to reconcile with biology.
  • BDH starts from attention, which neuroscience gave to machine learning. Pathway's approach, he says, was to reconcile attention as Hebbian learning captures it in natural systems with attention as the core of the transformer, a concept that entered machine learning from neuroscience in the 1990s.
Dr. Jon Krohn929: Dragon Hatchling: The Missing Link Between Transformers and the Brain — with Adrian Kosowski
synopsis

Adrian Kosowski of Pathway, on his third appearance and recording in person in New York, argues that his team's newly published "Dragon Hatchling" (BDH) architecture is a post-transformer design that is closer to the brain, interpretable by construction and composable. He positions it not as a bigger chatbot but as the basis for reasoning models that can work over billions of tokens of enterprise context.

Hebbian learning and two kinds of attention. The host summarises Hebbian learning: neurons that fire together strengthen their connection, while unused connections wane. Kosowski adds that this happens on many time scales, in a brain of 80–100 billion neurons and roughly 100 trillion synapses. Recurrent networks were once hoped to unite machine learning and neuroscience, but the transformer won, and its attention is hard to reconcile with biology. In the brain, he says, each neuron's attention is about which neighbours it listens to, encoded in synapses. The transformer's attention, by contrast, is a search over past tokens.

BDH as the missing link. BDH is a massively parallel network of artificial neurons whose attention works like natural synaptic attention. It is a state space model, so attention need not be read as looking back in time. Kosowski hopes it explains how the brain could reach transformer-like performance, which he says is still to be verified experimentally. Its target is the transformer's weak spots: lifelong learning, long reasoning and generalising beyond training patterns, where he says evidence on current reasoning models leans towards "no". Context need not be squeezed into "a memory the size of a peanut", since the state space is large, much as the brain's synapses far outnumber the tokens anyone processes in a lifetime.

Sparse and positive. The host notes the brain is sparsely activated and puts BDH at about 95% of neurons silent, with roughly a billion parameters, about GPT-2's size. Kosowski describes two worlds with no middle ground. Dense L2 vector spaces, where transformers have settled on attention heads of about 1,000 dimensions, sit on one side. Sparse positive L1 spaces, where concepts behave like probabilities and combine like bags of words, sit on the other. With pastry props (Scott Aaronson's latke-versus-hamantaschen image, plus a macaron pyramid), he argues that sparsity needs high dimensions and that meaning comes from mixing a few "colours", with no "opposite" of a concept. He claims Pathway is the first to scale sparse positive activation for reasoning to transformer-level performance, efficiently on GPUs.

Interpretability. The host likens BDH's concept neurons to the old "grandmother cell". Kosowski says positive activations make combinations readable. Important concepts form small sets in a power-law pattern, and even at 100 million parameters a single "grandmother synapse" can signal a concept. These patterns emerge in training; they are not designed in.

Composability and scale. Models scale along one dimension, neuron count, so separately trained language models can be concatenated into a working multilingual model. Pathway's 1B models match or beat other 1B models, he says, and 70–80B is possible, but non-reasoning chatbots are a commodity. The aim is reasoning over contexts such as a million pages (about a billion tokens) or large codebases.

Why not another Mamba. Asked why BDH would succeed where Mamba faded, Kosowski says escaping the transformer's local optimum takes five combined changes, not just linear attention. It needs no hybrid layers, and it simplifies memory layout across GPUs and other accelerators. A simplified version is in the paper; inference-speed enhancements stay internal, with further announcements promised.

  • A post-transformer architecture can mirror local, synaptic attention in the brain. Kosowski presents Pathway's "Dragon Hatchling" (BDH, the first of a "Baby Dragon" family of reasoning models): a network of artificial neurons whose attention lives in Hebbian-style synapses that strengthen or weaken. He says this makes it a state space model, more biologically plausible than the transformer's GPU-friendly lookup-style attention. Whether it explains reasoning in the brain is "to be verified in experiments".
  • Sparse positive activations replace dense vector spaces of fixed size. Kosowski argues transformers have converged on attention-head vectors of about 1,000 dimensions, forcing every concept into that space. BDH instead works in a sparse, positive, high-dimensional space (L1, probability-like) where concepts combine like bags of words or mixed colours rather than linear sums with negatives. He says it is the first work to scale sparse positive activations for reasoning to transformer-level performance, and GPU-efficient; the host's figure is about 95% of neurons silent at any time.
  • Monosemantic "grandmother synapses" emerge on their own in training. Kosowski says important concepts end up represented by smaller sets of neurons in a power-law pattern, and that even at 100 million parameters or below a single synapse can be sufficient evidence of a concept, such as a currency or a country. Because activations are positive, combinations are directly readable, which he presents as an interpretability advantage over dense models.
  • Separately trained models can simply be concatenated. Because BDH scales in one dimension, the number of neurons, Kosowski says models trained on different languages (English and French, in the host's example) can be placed side by side and work out of the box as a multilingual model, optionally with post-training to coordinate them. Two transformers have no clear way to be joined.
  • The aim is reasoning over enterprise-scale context, not bigger chatbots. Its 1-billion-parameter models are comparable to or better than other 1B models, Kosowski says, and nothing prevents a 70–80B release, but the chatbot market is a commodity. The goal is reasoning over, for example, a million pages (about 1 billion tokens), ingested "in a matter of minutes given enough hardware", and large codebases. He says BDH differs from Mamba-style alternatives because it combines five changes at once, needs no hybrid layers and simplifies memory layout; a simplified version is public in the paper while speed enhancements stay internal.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy AI Should Amplify — Not Replace — Human Creativity (CodeRabbit’s David Loker)
  • Creativity defined as novelty plus value admits machines. Asked by the host whether any creativity is uniquely human, Loker (a musician with a combinatorics and optimization background) cites a definition from the literature: something new that someone finds valuable. It also covers birds and nature, so by that definition machines can be creative.
  • Machines can create, but humans should stay the creators. Loker says he does not want to consume purely AI-generated art because he wants to identify with a person behind it, though it might still move him. He argues AI in creative work should enhance and broaden human ability, with "the machine in the back seat".
  • His music startup rejected the royalty-free "AI Spotify" model VCs wanted. Wave AI, which he co-founded with his wife and one of her former students, aimed to leave users more able to create on their own and to feel the output was theirs. He says many VCs wanted machines to replace musicians instead, and sees tools such as Suno and Udio now moving towards giving humans more control.
Dr. Jon KrohnBenchmarking GPT-5: CodeRabbit’s Surprising Results (with David Loker)
  • On the hardest code reviews, one model made a generational leap. Loker says CodeRabbit's internal set of the 25 hardest pull requests went from five or six caught when he joined to about 10 through context engineering and prompting, about 12 with Claude Opus 4 and Sonnet 4, and 18–21 with GPT-5, varying with non-determinism. The jump was so large the team first assumed something was wrong. The host contrasts this with the GPT-5 criticism and an Economist cover story, the week of recording, on LLMs plateauing.
  • The model handled negation and shifting assumptions across files. Loker, who taught logic in grad school, says GPT-5 reasoned from something's absence through several levels of implication, and reasoned conditionally ("if I assume you fixed the bug I reported earlier, then…"), which he says humans find hard and he had not seen from other models. He adds that hallucinations and negative user sentiment dropped dramatically, all judged within CodeRabbit's own use case.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow CodeRabbit Makes AI Code Reviews More Secure Than Humans (with David Loker)
  • Tireless machines will out-vigilant humans on security. The host says he does not buy the complaint that AI code is insecure. Loker agrees: machines never lose attention, and with better context engineering it becomes ever less likely a human will find a security issue the system missed.
  • LLMs are not copying insecure training code. Loker says the Stack Overflow critique assumes training data is replicated, but LLMs are probabilistic machines that produce novel output. They still make mistakes, which is why review tools exist, but reinforcement learning that scores outputs down when security scans flag them will remove such issues over time, and he expects these systems to become significantly better than people at most such tasks.
  • Easier coding has always produced more developers, not fewer. Citing a talk by Andrew Ng, Loker traces programming from punch cards through machine code to COBOL, each step dismissed by veterans as "too easy". He expects AI to widen who builds software over the next five to 10 years, while expertise in large-scale system choices, such as Kubernetes versus Cloud Run or Redis caching, lasts longer.
Dr. Jon Krohn928: The “Lethal Trifecta”: Can AI Agents Ever Be Safe? — with @JonKrohnLearns
  • Private data, untrusted input and external communication together are dangerous. The host relays The Economist's "lethal trifecta": each of the three is safe alone, but combined, as is common in enterprise agents, a hidden instruction such as "forward the CEO's inbox to [email protected]" can make the system read sensitive data and exfiltrate it by email, links or API calls.
  • LLMs cannot tell data from instructions, so prompt injection persists. He says LLMs are naturally compliant and will often follow malicious instructions hidden in the data they process, the prompt-injection problem first identified in 2022.
  • Real incidents show the trifecta is already exploitable. The host cites European delivery firm DPD shutting down its chatbot in January of last year after customers prompted it to swear. He also cites the EchoLeak vulnerability in Microsoft Copilot, where security researchers showed one crafted email could make Copilot dig into private documents and hide the data in a generated hyperlink that sent it to an attacker when clicked; Microsoft patched it.
  • Removing any one leg of the trifecta sharply cuts the risk. His safest strategy is that an agent exposed to untrusted input should get neither sensitive data nor external channels. Where all three are needed, he points to dual-model sandboxing, in which a quarantined untrusted model handles risky input while a trusted model reaches data and tools through constrained interfaces, and to Google's CaMeL framework, which turns requests into structured steps checked before execution.
  • Least privilege, sanitised inputs, constrained outputs and humans in the loop. The host's four best practices are minimal data and tool access, sanitising untrusted inputs, constraining links and emails the system can send, and human sign-off on high-stakes actions. His conclusion is that the trifecta is a deep design flaw but need not be fatal with defence in depth.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow Can Developer Productivity Be Measured in the AI Era? (with David Loker)
  • Lines of code and PR counts become meaningless with AI-generated code. Asked by the host what to measure once machines write most code and handle most bugs, Loker says lines of code lose all meaning once AI tools are in the workflow, and even the number of pull requests opened is not indicative; developer satisfaction is one alternative measure.
  • Measure ideas shipped, as data science measures hypotheses tested. Drawing on his time at Netflix, where the yardstick was forming a hypothesis, executing it and getting a result, Loker argues developer productivity will come down to features. With rapid prototyping becoming a solved problem, the question is whether someone has ideas, prototypes them and brings them to production.
  • Bug counts will stop being a useful metric too. He expects better AI code review to prevent large and long-term bugs from shipping, so velocity will be measured by creativity and the ability to bring things into the world rather than by bugs fixed.
AI Analyst LabHow to Land a Machine Learning Job Today | Ep38
synopsis

This episode of the Data Neighbor podcast interviews Umang, a machine learning engineer at TikTok who previously worked at Amazon. He ends up at a four-part prep plan and one main piece of advice: be patient. He treats an ML job search as a funnel that needs four to five final loops to produce one offer.

Getting in. After undergraduate courses in India, Umang spent six months as a research assistant at a university in Singapore, then did a CS master's at UMass Amherst. Amazon placed his internship on a checkout web team writing Java JSP. He had to accept a full-time offer on that same team, but Amazon has no lock-in period. He messaged five or six hiring managers, interviewed informally with six or seven teams, got offers from three or four, and moved to Prime Video forecasting about three months into the job. His early external interviews failed because he was a generalist, until he went deep in one area.

AI at work and in prep. At TikTok he detects coordinated bad behavior on the US platform. He says the work has moved from heuristics to classical ML to LLMs, which also explain which policy a suspended account broke. He uses a Gemini Pro subscription for code and long documents, and practices ML system design with Grok. He says most mentees still prepare from books.

Mentoring. Umang says he has helped a web developer and a data analyst move straight into ML roles, which he calls feasible at entry or mid level over 6–12 months but very hard at senior level. He separates interview skills (trade-offs, intuition) from deep framework knowledge and recommends both. He reports that big-tech interviews remain traditional: Meta's announced round allowing LLMs had not rolled out as far as he knows, while startups often allow them.

The plan. He predicts the market stays tough through 2026. He sets targets of 100+ applications, 10+ screens and four or more final loops, and splits prep into ML fundamentals, ML design, ML system design and ML coding, with one or two resources for each.

  • Nobody knows MLE's future, so the time to switch is now. Umang, a machine learning engineer at TikTok and formerly a software and ML engineer at Amazon, says his mentees most often ask whether ML engineering jobs will survive AI. He tells them the path that works today may change in a year or two, and the job may not exist in 3–5 years. If they want it, they should act now.
  • Landing an ML job is a patient numbers game. He predicts the market stays tough through 2025 and 2026, with one bad round usually sinking a loop. His targets are 100+ applications, 10+ tech screens and four to five final loops for one offer. A host compares it to dating, where you only need one.
  • Split ML prep into four parts, one or two resources each. The four are ML fundamentals, ML design, ML system design and ML coding, which he says covers LLM questions and project discussion too. He says big-tech loops are broadly similar, with variations: Amazon may add an ML-depth round on one of your projects, and Spotify leans toward data engineering.
  • Interview skills differ from job skills, and depth beats breadth. Interviews test trade-offs and high-level intuition (plus Spark basics) rather than deep PyTorch or TensorFlow, so prep alone is faster than full skill-building, which takes a year or more. He recommends doing both, partly so behavioral answers can draw on real end-to-end work. He says his own early interviews failed because he was a generalist, until he picked one area and learned its models and trade-offs.
  • LLMs are an underused prep tool, while big-tech interviews stay traditional. Umang practices ML system design by working through scenarios and follow-ups with Grok, which he finds more comprehensive than ChatGPT or Gemini (he has not tried Claude), and says most mentees still rely on books. He reports that Meta announced a round allowing LLMs but, to his knowledge, has not rolled it out; Reddit allows web search during a live modeling exercise; and startups often allow LLMs. Big tech, including Pinterest, Snap and Airbnb, stays structured.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow Context Engineering Reduces Hallucinations (with David Loker)
  • A diff alone tells a reviewer, human or LLM, too little. Loker defines context engineering as deciding what information to fetch, from where, and how to trim it into the LLM's context window. A bare diff yields only low-level insight, just as a human reviewer without a description struggles to see what a change was trying to do.
  • The reviewer pulls intent from issues, design documents and linked decisions. Loker says it fetches the linked issue, which may hold a full product requirements document or a bug report with images, and related documents such as a Notion design page recording later decisions, to check whether the code does what it was meant to.
  • A code graph catches breakage outside the changed lines. CodeRabbit builds a graph of how code pieces interact and runs verification loops that search the codebase. If a PR changes a public function's API, the review can see where it is used elsewhere and flag breakage that is not in the diff at all.
  • Standards documents and stored "learnings" shape refactor suggestions. Loker says pulled-in standards on authentication, user data or secrets let it flag code that departs from house practice even when it is not a bug. Conventions stated in chat ("this way, we do this") are stored so others do not repeat the mistake; he agrees with the host that this extra context also reduces hallucinations.
Dr. Jon Krohn927: Automating Code Review with AI, feat. CodeRabbit’s David Loker
synopsis

David Loker, director of AI at CodeRabbit, argues that AI code review works best as a hybrid of a fixed pipeline and a bounded agent fed carefully chosen context, and that it becomes essential as AI-generated code multiplies the number of pull requests. He reports GPT-5 nearly doubling CodeRabbit's score on its hardest internal reviews, yet still expects LLMs to plateau and need new architectures. He sees AI widening rather than shrinking the population of software builders, and he wants humans kept as the creators wherever AI touches creative work.

The problem and the architecture. Loker frames pull-request review as quality control that senior engineers can no longer keep up with as AI multiplies PRs. He contrasts two patterns from his blog post. Agentic AI is "a glorified while loop" of planning and tool calls, and its error compounds: a 1% error rate across 100 chained actions all but guarantees a mistake. Pipeline AI runs predetermined steps and is easy to debug but brittle. CodeRabbit sits in the middle. It always runs static analysis, then lets an agent explore within limits on tool calls, iterations and context size, fetching library documentation, files from other repos, or the issue behind a PR. The host likened this to Anthropic's split between workflows and agents.

Context engineering. Loker defines the task as deciding what information goes into the LLM's context and what stays out. CodeRabbit pulls linked issues and PRDs, design documents, standards documentation, and a code graph showing where a changed public API is used, plus verification loops that search the codebase. He warns that giant context windows tempt teams to "throw everything in". Attention is U-shaped, he says, and multiple studies show performance falls as material is added even when it is accurate. "Learnings" store a reviewer's corrections for later reviews, and checking each comment against evidence "significantly" prunes hallucinations.

Productivity, privacy and learning. Loker says lines of code, and even PR counts, are meaningless once AI writes the code. He would measure ideas taken from prototype to production, as he measured executed hypotheses at Netflix. Answering the host's question on "bring your own AI", he cites a stat that about 90% of employees use personal ChatGPT accounts. His remedy is to supply sanctioned tools under zero-data-retention agreements, or on the company's own infrastructure where rules demand it. CodeRabbit runs each review once in an isolated sandbox that is then torn down, stores no code, and offers self-hosting. Because it will not train on customer code, it improves its learning features through customer feedback, open-source usage and its own use of the product rather than reinforcement learning.

Security and vibe coding. Loker agrees with the host that machines can be more vigilant than humans, because they do not tire. He argues that RL against security-scanned outputs will remove the flaws critics attribute to copying Stack Overflow. Citing an Andrew Ng talk, he traces how each move from punch cards to COBOL drew complaints that the newcomers were not real coders, and each produced more engineers. The host, citing the CodeRabbit blog's figure that AI coding tools can add up to 41% more bugs and Lovable's nearly $2 billion valuation, asked whether AI reviewing AI is the future. Loker defends vibe coding as a prototyping tool: his sister-in-law built an app in an afternoon, though not a production-ready one. His objection is to the term, which implies prompting without engaging the code. A solo vibe coder, he says, needs a third-party reviewer.

GPT-5 and the limits of LLMs. CodeRabbit's hardest set has 25 PRs. Loker reports 5–6 correct when he joined, about 10 after context-engineering work, about 12 with Claude Opus 4 and Sonnet 4, and 18–21 with GPT-5, varying with non-determinism. The team first assumed something was wrong. On inspection he found reasoning he had not seen before: inferences from something's absence carried several levels deep, and re-deriving consequences under an assumed fix. Hallucination and negative feedback also fell sharply. He agrees with the host that the leap shows only on hours-long tasks. He still expects LLMs to reach a limit, citing data scarcity and the brain's energy efficiency. He calls the investment not wasted, since vertical fine-tuning is far from exhausted.

Creativity. Drawing on Wave AI, which he co-founded with his wife and a former student of hers, Loker accepts a definition of creativity as novelty plus value, which does not exclude machines. He does not want to consume purely AI-generated art, though. He says Wave AI went against VCs who wanted an "AI Spotify" without royalties: the machine should sit in the back seat, and users should leave feeling the work is theirs.

  • Production code review needs a hybrid of pipeline and agent. Loker, director of AI at CodeRabbit, argues a fully agentic loop compounds error (a 1% error rate over a 100-step chain all but guarantees a mistake), while a fixed pipeline is brittle. CodeRabbit always runs known steps such as static analysis, then lets an agent explore within capped tool calls, iterations and context size: web lookups for library docs, other repos, linked issues.
  • Review quality depends on curated context, not more context. CodeRabbit pulls the PR's issue, linked design documents, standards docs and a code graph showing where a changed public function is used elsewhere. Loker warns that adding even accurate material degrades LLM performance, with attention U-shaped over long windows, and says a verification step that checks each comment against evidence "significantly" prunes hallucinations.
  • The newest model nearly doubled scores on the hardest reviews. On an internal set of 25 deliberately hard PRs, Loker reports 5–6 correct when he joined, about 10 after context-engineering work, about 12 with Claude Opus 4 and Sonnet 4, and 18–21 with GPT-5. He credits multi-file reasoning that uses negatives and hypotheticals ("if I assume you fixed the bug I reported earlier…"), plus lower hallucination and negative-feedback rates. He still expects LLMs to hit a ceiling and new architectures to be needed.
  • Machines will out-review humans on security. Loker's reasons are that they never tire or lose attention, and that RL which down-rates insecure outputs will keep removing the Stack Overflow-style flaws critics cite. On data, CodeRabbit runs each review once in an isolated sandbox torn down afterwards, keeps zero-data-retention agreements with LLM providers, does not train on customer code, and offers self-hosting.
  • Lines of code no longer measure productivity. Loker would measure features and executed hypotheses instead, since AI makes prototyping close to solved. He defends vibe coding for prototypes (his sister-in-law built an app with Lovable in an afternoon, not production-ready), predicts it will widen who builds software as higher-level languages did, and pitches AI review as the third party a solo vibe coder lacks. The host cited the CodeRabbit blog's figure that AI coding tools can add up to 41% more bugs.
Dr. Jon KrohnJobs Are Being Automated Rapidly. What's the Future of Work? (with Carl Benedikt Frey)
  • Distrust of driverless vehicles will fade quickly with exposure. Frey compares it to unions' claim that riders would never trust an operator-less elevator, which ended once performance spoke for itself. He notes that most of the jobs his 2013 paper judged fully automatable sit in transportation and logistics, a shift he says is only beginning. The prompt was the host's account of preferring a lidar-based Waymo to an Uber.
  • Lower barriers to entry hit white-collar workers like automation. Frey likens it to GPS making a taxi driver's street knowledge worthless and opening the work to Uber drivers. Because professional work is tradable (he contrasts a New York accountant's six-figure salary with a low four-digit one in Manila), he expects narrowing productivity gaps to push white-collar work across borders. For professionals in Europe and the US, he says, the effect is the same as having their jobs automated.
  • Governments should protect people, not jobs. Frey argues that Europe's strong employment protection keeps its firms from adjusting to generative AI as fast as Meta or Google can. He favours Danish-style "flexicurity": flexible labour markets plus real security for those who lose work.
  • Safety nets decide whether automation provokes unrest. In his earlier book The Technology Trap, Frey argues the Luddites were right to riot, since British wages stagnated or fell for about two decades and two generations lost out. Britain alone taxed itself 2% of GDP for the poor, and areas with more generous poor laws saw less unrest. He sets a large strike when autonomous cargo trucks reached LA against no reported incidents when the same technology came to ports in Norway and the Netherlands.
Dr. Jon KrohnCould AI Create Billion-Dollar Companies With One Employee? (with Carl Benedikt Frey)
  • Whether a job "changes" or "disappears" matters little to the worker. Frey notes that laundresses were automated by the washing machine, not by a robot copying their motions, so judging automatability from a job's task list says little. A self-driving school bus may still need a minder, but that person needs no driver's licence and has a different skill set, so the driver is replaced either way.
  • Automation alone yields little growth; new industries do. Frey argues that if everything since 1800 had been automation, we would have cheap textiles and productive farming but no vaccines, antibiotics, aircraft or computers. Most work done in the US today did not exist in 1940. He warns that today's new firms create fewer jobs than they once did, and that AI used mainly as a productivity tool will bring a short-term boost but little lasting growth or job creation.
  • One-person unicorns would not deliver shared prosperity. Answering the host's citation of Sam Altman's prediction of a one-person billion-dollar company, Frey says such firms could be taxed to fund services. Unless their services spread through the whole economy, though, a few unicorns produce neither broad prosperity nor much productivity growth.
  • AI needs new sectors, as railways and cars once were. Frey says Britain's growth took off only with the railways, after about seven decades centred on mechanising textiles. The second industrial revolution added cars, electrical goods, component and machine-tool industries, road commerce and tourism. The computer revolution produced a smaller surge that faded quickly, and he expects AI to follow that path unless it creates comparably large sectors.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy LLMs Struggle With True Invention (with Carl Benedikt Frey)
  • LLMs recombine their training data well but cannot make inconceivable leaps. Frey cites a thought experiment by two Oxford colleagues: an LLM trained on data up to 1900 would see only failed flight attempts and no bird over 30 pounds that gets off the ground, so it would not have produced the Wright brothers' blueprint. A model trained on Impressionist paintings yields near-Impressionism, not conceptual art. For frontier discovery, he concludes, humans are safe "for now", while stressing he is not a computer scientist.
  • AI still awaits its separate-condenser moment. Frey compares today's AI to early steam engines, too energy-inefficient to do more than drain coal mines (and badly) until the separate condenser and later tweaks made them useful. Brute force works only on a static distribution, he argues, and the world keeps changing. He cites a 2023 paper from Stuart Russell's lab showing amateurs on standard laptops beating superhuman Go programs by exposing them to new concepts.
Dr. Jon KrohnSDS 926: AI is Disrupting the Legal Industry: Are Paralegals Doomed? — with @JonKrohnLearns
  • In law, AI mainly augments lawyers rather than replacing them. The host names contract review, legal research and document automation as the commonest uses, plus some litigation-outcome prediction. He says they save attorneys hundreds of hours a year and free them for strategy, advocacy and client advice, and that hybrid "legal technologist" roles are emerging.
  • Paralegal work will shrink but paralegals need not be left behind. The host concedes that document review, discovery and due diligence are exactly what AI now automates. He says firms are retraining paralegals to supervise AI, validate outputs and manage data workflows. Compliance, data privacy and AI regulation are opening new roles, and he argues entry-level lawyers who adapt may be in greater demand than before.
  • Funded startups are driving the change. The host describes Harvey, backed by OpenAI, as a natural-language co-pilot that major firms have rolled out to thousands of lawyers. He reports that Thomson Reuters spent $650 million acquiring the company behind CoCounsel, a research, deposition-prep and contract-analysis tool.
Dr. Jon KrohnFrom mRNA Vaccines to Google: How Weak Ties Fuel Innovation (with Carl Benedikt Frey)
  • Innovation depends on freedom to choose collaborators, not on regime type. Frey takes "weak ties" from a 1970s sociology paper and the "collective brain" from Joseph Henrich. Katalin Karikó left socialist Hungary and struggled for decades for US funding, was denied tenure, but found collaborators and laid the groundwork for mRNA vaccines built within months of the virus being identified. Page and Brin met at Stanford, and parents in science and the density of inventors where one grows up are strong predictors of becoming an inventor. Elite institutions in Russia and China foster such ties too, he says.
  • Incumbents past the easy gains stop innovating and start lobbying. Once process improvements hit diminishing returns, Frey argues, protecting oneself from competition pays better, and incumbents avoid breakthroughs that would cannibalise their business. His examples are Kodak shelving its early digital camera and Google, whose transformer authors left and which did not launch generative AI before OpenAI, perhaps to protect ad revenue. He cites research showing creative talent clustering in a few incumbents, where inventors are less productive than at their earlier startups.
  • Antitrust, not coordination, gave America the computer revolution. Frey says Japan led in autos, semiconductors and consumer electronics in the 1980s, then stagnated while US productivity surged around 1995. He credits the IBM case forcing hardware and software apart, which let Microsoft enter, and the AT&T break-up, which kept ARPANET from being bottlenecked in one boardroom. Japan's keiretsu, by contrast, raised barriers to entry. He also notes US business dynamism is in decline and draws the lesson for US competition with China.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy Decentralized Systems Drive Breakthrough Innovation (with Carl Benedikt Frey)
  • Progress has two phases, exploration and scaling, which reward different systems. Frey likens exploration to a startup finding its model and scaling to low-cost delivery of what is already known. A Soviet aircraft engineer could ask the Red Army and at most two or three others, and needed his idea to match national priorities. In the US, Bessemer Venture Partners passing on Google in 1999 did not kill it, because Sequoia took the bet. More funders explore more trajectories, so he expects breakthroughs from decentralised systems.
  • A system built for scaling broke when computing demanded exploration. Frey says the Soviet Union grew fast for decades by mobilising resources in heavy industry such as steel. Geography, institutions and culture do not explain its 1991 collapse, he argues: geography was unchanged, institutions were arguably better under Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika, and Western broadcasts should have made the culture more progressive. The explanation he offers is the interaction of institutions and culture with changing technology.
Dr. Jon Krohn925: AI, Automation and the Future of Work — with Oxford’s Prof. Carl Benedikt Frey
synopsis

Carl Benedikt Frey, the Oxford associate professor of AI and work behind the 2013 Frey–Osborne estimate that 47% of US jobs were susceptible to computerisation, argues that technological progress is never guaranteed. It depends on decentralised, competitive systems that let people explore. LLMs, as he sees them, recombine rather than invent, and AI will only pay off broadly if it creates new industries instead of merely automating old ones. Meanwhile workers need protecting as people, not as jobholders.

Progress is not inevitable. In his new book, How Progress Ends, Frey says that if progress were inevitable, the industrial revolution would have come earlier and most countries would be rich. Song China, the Dutch Republic and Victorian Britain each led only briefly. Innovation has an exploration phase and a scaling phase. The Soviet Union scaled steel and heavy industry for decades, but its engineers had only a handful of funders. It collapsed as computing demanded exploration, and he argues geography, institutions and culture alone cannot explain that. In the US, Bessemer passing on Google in 1999 did not kill it.

Weak ties and the lobbying trap. Frey cites weak-tie networks as a "collective brain". Katalin Karikó found collaborators for mRNA work despite decades of rejection, and Page and Brin met at Stanford. What matters, he says, is the autonomy to choose collaborators, not democracy as such. Once process gains run out, incumbents protect themselves instead of innovating, as Kodak and Google did. He cites research that inventors are less productive inside incumbents than at their former startups. US antitrust against IBM and AT&T opened software and the internet to new firms, while Japan's keiretsu blocked entry and Japan stagnated after leading in the 1980s.

What LLMs cannot do. A model trained on data to 1900 would not have predicted flight. Frey says AI still awaits a "separate condenser" that would make it resilient to a changing world, and cites a 2023 result in which amateurs beat superhuman Go programs. He is impressed nonetheless: models out-tutor him. He sees trust, and trusted brands, growing in value.

Automation versus new work. Whether a job changes or vanishes matters little to a displaced bus driver, he says. If AI is used mostly for automation, growth will be short-lived. New sectors such as railways, cars and electrical goods created the jobs that came before, and a few one-person unicorns would not spread prosperity.

Policy and individuals. Frey expects distrust of driverless cars to fade, as it did for automatic elevators. White-collar work is tradable, so he expects it to move abroad as barriers fall. He favours Danish-style flexicurity and generous safety nets, noting that areas with more generous poor laws saw less Luddite-era unrest. For individuals, he points to in-person communication, adaptive creativity and manual trades. Answering a listener, he says societies once tolerated deadly early railways and exploding tractors but are now more cautious. That makes reliability vital, he argues, though over-regulating before deployment would be a mistake.

  • Breakthroughs need decentralised, competitive systems; progress is not inevitable. In How Progress Ends, Frey notes few leaders (Song China, the Dutch Republic, Victorian Britain) stayed ahead long. Centralised economies scale but explore poorly: a Soviet engineer had the Red Army and two or three other funders, while Sequoia backed Google after Bessemer passed in 1999. He credits the IBM unbundling case and the AT&T break-up for the US software and internet boom from about 1995, while Japan's keiretsu raised barriers to entry. Incumbents past easy gains turn to lobbying, as with Kodak's digital camera and Google's transformer work.
  • LLMs are engines of statistical consensus, not invention. Frey argues a model trained on data to 1900 would have seen only failed flights and no bird over 30 pounds that flies, so it would not have foreseen the Wright brothers. He says AI awaits its "separate condenser" moment, which made early steam engines useful. He cites a 2023 paper from Stuart Russell's lab in which amateurs on laptops beat superhuman Go programs with novel concepts. He also calls the latest models better tutors than he is, says their gains will soon be imperceptible to users, and puts the human edge in applying the right model to the right problem.
  • AI used only for automation will bring little growth or jobs. Frey notes most US work today did not exist in 1940, new firms now create fewer jobs, and growth came from new sectors: railways, then cars, electrical goods and tourism. The computer revolution's surge faded fast, and he expects the same of AI unless it builds comparable industries. A one-person billion-dollar firm, the Sam Altman prediction the host cited, would be taxable but not shared prosperity.
  • AI erodes white-collar jobs mainly by lowering barriers and enabling offshoring. Frey compares it to GPS making taxi knowledge worthless. Since a New York accountant earns six figures against a low four-digit salary in Manila, he expects narrower productivity gaps to move work abroad. His policy is to protect people, not jobs: Danish-style flexicurity rather than Europe's rigid employment protection. He argues the Luddites were right, since British wages stagnated or fell for about two decades, and notes that more generous poor laws (Britain taxed itself 2% of GDP) meant less unrest.
  • In-person skill, adaptive creativity and manual trades will gain value. Frey's 2013 bottlenecks were social interaction, creativity and unstructured environments. He now argues AI's homogenised output makes face-to-face communication the differentiator, and that resilience to new events stays human. Plumbers, electricians and gardeners may outrank lawyers or consultants. Trust matters more too: he cites evidence that generative AI has reduced trust while raising the value of trusted brands, and he warns against over-regulating before deployment shows what to regulate.
Dr. Jon KrohnThe Future of Graph Networks: Multimodality & Causality (with Amy Hodler)
  • Graph tooling no longer requires a dedicated graph database. Hodler says query engines have improved, new kinds of graph database are appearing, and hyperscalers are re-entering the space, so practitioners face a widening choice of frameworks.
  • Graphs can model relationships inside images and audio, not just text. With colleague David Hughes, Hodler graphs objects within an image, such as one ship ahead of another in a fleet. Tracked over time, that relationship yields speed, whether the ships are converging, and whether they look antagonistic. Adding audio, they used the Doppler effect to infer the direction of police cars heard but not seen in a video. She sees uses in sonar and in inferring relationships from how people stand together.
  • Graphs as agent memory will be the next hot topic. Hodler argues graphs can store context beyond agents' short context windows and retrieve it later. She recommends the Zep paper on a temporal knowledge-graph architecture for agent memory and the Mem0 paper on production agents with scalable long-term memory. She predicts people will be talking about this within six months, "by the end of the year".
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Get Started with Graph Networks
  • Start from the use case and avoid locking into one graph method. Hodler says that three or four years ago adding graph capability was assumed to mean a graph database; that is no longer so. Vendors now let you project a graph through a computational graph engine or graph layer, or query table data with a "graphy" question and drop the projection afterwards. She declines to name tools, saying no single option suits every situation, and advises fitting the choice to your own tech stack.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhy Graphs Supercharge RAG (with Amy Hodler)
  • Vector RAG has plateaued, and graphs augment it rather than replace it. Hodler names a semantic "meaning gap" between questions and answers, approximate rather than exact matches, missed topological relevance, and difficulty with multi-step reasoning and diverse data sources, as in agentic RAG.
  • Graphs add structure that vector search lacks. Hodler says vector search gives good summarisation and fuzzy matching and full-text search gives exact matches, while a graph adds topology. That suits serial dependencies, steps that must happen in sequence, aggregations across multiple data sources, and stitching results together through their connections.
Dr. Jon Krohn924: 95% of Enterprise AI Projects Fail (Per MIT Research) — with Jon Krohn (@JonKrohnLearns)
  • Most enterprise AI pilots never deliver, a new report claims. The host relays a report from MIT's NANDA lab claiming 95% of enterprise AI projects fail to deliver measurable business impact, a "GenAI divide". By the report's figures, 40% of firms deploy AI pilots but only 5% reach production at scale, mostly because projects don't fit workflows and the models are static, unable to retain context or adapt.
  • Workers' "shadow AI" often beats sanctioned projects. Per the report as relayed, workers in over 90% of organisations use personal AI accounts, which often deliver more ROI than official projects. The host reads this as hunger for AI that companies are not yet meeting.
  • The headline failure rate is disputed, though the host thinks the picture holds. He cites a rebuttal from analysts at the research firm Futurum calling the number inflated and noting the lab's ties to vendors pushing agentic AI. His own view is that even a lower true figure leaves most enterprise AI projects without real impact.
  • Successful projects use systems that learn and embed in workflows. The host's lesson from the report is that the successful 5% are agentic systems that remember, adapt to feedback and act within constraints. Their teams start with a narrow but critical task and scale from there. "AI isn't failing us. We're failing to deploy it right," he concludes.
Dr. Jon KrohnGraph Networks + GenAI: A Powerful New Frontier (with Amy Hodler)
  • Fraud and cybersecurity draw the commercial money in graphs. Hodler calls fraud evergreen but crowded, so a newcomer needs a distinctive angle, though it still opens doors. Cybersecurity is "hot again" and starting to crowd, driven by an exponential rise in cybercrime and by graphs' fit for tracing actors who hide.
  • LLMs plus graphs make legal and support documentation analysis easy wins. Hodler is surprised more firms aren't doing it: an LLM parses the language, and a graph maps the web of clauses, sub-clauses and cross-referenced laws. That shows ripple effects, such as signing something impossible to fulfil. Help desks are doing the same with their own sprawling documentation.
  • Graph-based document work long predates GraphRAG. Asked whether this is GraphRAG, Hodler says it can be either plain graph or GraphRAG. She notes Caterpillar has used graphs for its support documentation for years, before RAG was discussed, and guesses (without having checked) that it now uses RAG and a chatbot as well.
Dr. Jon KrohnHow Graphs Expose Criminal Networks (with Amy Hodler)
  • Graphs expose criminals because crime hides across many connected touch points. Hodler says money launderers, fraud rings, international criminal organisations and supply-chain criminals try to look normal. They are caught by following breadcrumbs across multiple touch points over time and across collaborators, addresses and behaviours. A snapshot or a view of rows and tables misses the pattern, she argues, while a graph pulls it out.
  • Graph recommendations rest on shared connections and behaviour. Hodler's example is a service recommending an unseen film because it shares a director the viewer likes, or because others who like that director recommend it.
  • Supply chains broke because predictions ignored the network. Hodler says this is what happened during COVID, and calls predicting purely from past correlations a classic machine-learning mistake that fails when the underlying reality shifts. Graphs, used for troop supply routing since World War II, find the next-best (top-k) routes when a warehouse or port goes out of commission. Anytime data is connected, she says, graphs can help optimise it.
Dr. Jon Krohn923: Graph Algorithms, GraphRAG and Causal Graphs — with Graph Guru Amy Hodler
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Amy Hodler, founder and executive director of GraphGeeks and co-author of O'Reilly's Graph Algorithms, argues that graphs matter now because they capture what sequence-predicting AI misses: the structure of relationships, and eventually the causes behind events. She ends forecasting graphs as agent memory within six months and causal graphs as the next big topic in about two years.

What a graph is. Hodler describes a graph as entities (nouns) joined by relationships (verbs), the circles and lines anyone draws on a whiteboard. Nodes are also called vertices, and edges are also called links. Property graphs attach properties to nodes and relationships: descriptors, quantities, normalised 0–1 strengths that summarise repeated interactions, lat-long codes, even lists. RDF triples (subject, predicate, object) come from the semantic web. They are more verbose and enforce more rules and logic, while property graphs are more flexible, which can help a team or get it into trouble.

Use cases. Graphs suit crime detection: money laundering, fraud rings, international criminal organisations and supply-chain crime. Bad actors imitate normal behaviour, and their pattern only shows when touch points are traced over time and across collaborators. Recommendations draw on shared directors and on the behaviour of similar viewers. Supply chains, she argues, failed in COVID because predictions rested on past correlations, while graphs find next-best routes when a port or warehouse goes down.

Algorithms and cost. Hodler calls graph algorithms her favourite part of the field because they compute over topology. They show whether a network is growing, clumping or dying, which statistical and ML methods miss. PageRank now appears in telomere and contaminant-toxicity research. On cost, she blames naive queries. All-pairs shortest path is "computationally crazy"; restricting it to the top k helps, as does tailoring queries and the data model to common questions. Distance can mean hops, time or cost, and in a relational database each hop is a join.

Where the money is. She calls fraud evergreen but crowded, and says cybersecurity is hot again amid an exponential rise in cybercrime. The low-hanging fruit is documentation analysis that combines an LLM with a graph. In legal work, chains of clauses and cross-references can reveal obligations impossible to fulfil, and help desks have similar needs. Caterpillar used graphs for support documentation long before RAG.

GraphRAG. Hodler says vector RAG has plateaued because of a meaning gap between questions and answers, approximate matches, missing topology and weak multi-step reasoning. Graphs add structure, sequences and aggregation across sources. She would rather call the result "hybrid RAG": the best results she has seen run vector and graph search in parallel and blend them. On tools she stays vendor-neutral. A dedicated graph database is no longer required, since graph engines or layers can project graphs over table data.

What's next. She sees frameworks diversifying, with hyperscalers re-entering the field. Multimodal graphs model relationships within images and audio, for example ships converging or a siren's Doppler shift. Graph memory for agents, extending short context windows, is the area she expects to be "super hot by the end of the year". Causal graphs, whose directed links could explain why sequences occur, are a little further off.

  • Graph algorithms reveal network structure that statistics and ML miss. Hodler, co-author of O'Reilly's Graph Algorithms, argues that a network's topology shows whether it is growing, clumping or breaking apart, which averages over rows and tables cannot. She warns that the current GenAI moment predicts the next item in a sequence without understanding the network of customers, patients or suppliers. PageRank, built to infer source credibility, has since been used on telomere lifespan and contaminant toxicity because it finds the important nodes.
  • Crime and supply chains are the canonical graph problems. Criminals try to look normal, Hodler says, so they are found by tracing touch points across time and collaborators, a pattern invisible in tables. She says COVID broke supply chains because predictions relied on past correlations rather than an understanding of the network. Graphs, used for troop supply since World War II, find the top-k next-best routes when a port or warehouse fails.
  • Graphs get expensive only when queried naively. Hodler's example is a request for all-pairs shortest path, which she calls computationally crazy; usually all pairs among the top k will do. She advises identifying an organisation's most common ad hoc queries and tailoring both the queries and the data model to them. Each hop is a join in the relational world, so many hops cost heavily there too.
  • GraphRAG works best as hybrid retrieval run in parallel. Hodler says vector RAG has plateaued on meaning gaps, approximate matches and multi-step reasoning. Vector search supplies fuzzy matching and summarisation, while graph search supplies topology, sequences and multi-source aggregation. The best results she has seen run both at once and blend the outputs, though she cautions the answer may differ in six months.
  • Graph memory for agents is next; causal graphs come after. Hodler predicts graphs as agent memory will be widely discussed within six months, citing the Zep temporal knowledge-graph paper and the Mem0 paper. She also describes multimodal graphs of objects in images and of audio, such as inferring police cars' direction from the Doppler effect. Causal graphs, she forecasts, will be the hot topic in "twoish years", because models predict sequences without knowing why they happen.
Dr. Jon KrohnFrom 3 Months to 4 Days: How Dell Pro AI Studio Speeds AI Development (with Dell’s Experts)
  • Landing a model on PC silicon is daunting even for experienced practitioners. Gupta says each target needs the right model format and a different conversion tool chain for each vendor (Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Nvidia). Quantising a whole model family or adding LoRAs multiplies the branches. Shah adds that the tooling (llama.cpp, Ollama, GGUF, CUDA-X, community quantisers on Hugging Face) is a plethora not all deployable in an enterprise.
  • Abstracting the tool chains cuts a months-long build to days. Gupta reports a comparison with a partner, white paper forthcoming: a team new to Intel's OpenVINO took about 3 months to go from scratch to an app running a model on Intel silicon, against about 4 days with Dell Pro AI Studio. Shah describes the product as an extension of OpenVINO built with Intel. It exposes an OpenAI-compatible API, so Gupta says an app can switch from a cloud endpoint to a local accelerator with a one-line configuration change.
  • Run AI locally only where there's a genuine reason. Shah lists offline use (an aeroplane with a poor connection), speed, cost, security and connectivity. Users don't care whether a workload goes to the cloud or the device, he says, only about performance. The question is whether a workload genuinely belongs on the device, not running locally "just to say you did".
Dr. Jon KrohnHow to Future-Proof Your AI PC for the Next 5 Years (with Dell’s Experts)
  • Without an accelerator, the CPU absorbs the OS's coming AI load. Shah says Microsoft is building AI features such as Teams background blur and speech-to-text into Windows to run locally, because shipping them to the cloud is expensive. A CPU without an accelerator must handle that load on top of its usual work, so it needs slack. He recommends an NPU for knowledge workers. For the new persona of semi-technical users who "know enough to be dangerous", he favours a discrete GPU, with dual use (AI work by day, a child's Fortnite later) as a bonus.
  • A mid-tier NPU is the floor for future local features. Gupta recommends at least 40 TOPS on the NPU so buyers aren't locked out of coming local features. He sorts today's devices into three tiers. "Essential" AI PCs have 10–15 TOPS NPUs for basic offloading and models up to about 1–3 billion parameters. Advanced AI PCs have 40–50 TOPS NPUs for custom workloads up to about 9–10 billion parameters and Copilot+ features, Microsoft's locally run, no-extra-charge features, as distinct from cloud-based Copilot. High-performance PCs add discrete GPUs or NPUs for data scientists.
  • Buy for the device's lifespan, not today's features. Shah calls this a "temporal mismatch": even buyers sceptical of current AI features should weigh how fast things are changing over the years they will keep a machine. He insists that this is not an infomercial.
Dr. Jon KrohnGPU vs NPU: What’s the Difference? (Explained by Experts from Dell)
  • GPUs offer the higher ceiling; NPUs offer performance per watt. Gupta calls GPUs more versatile and better at scaling performance, while NPUs are in their first couple of generations and still improving. Shah sums up client devices as GPU for the highest ceiling, and CPU or NPU for best efficiency depending on the use case.
  • Desk-side GPU appliances bring frontier-scale models local. Gupta says Nvidia's GB10, due later in the year, can fine-tune models up to 200 billion parameters locally at a price he calls fairly accessible. The GB300 reaches 500 billion parameters at 20 petaflops, at a much higher price.
  • Buyers who skip an NPU or discrete GPU may need to upgrade sooner. Shah frames a purchase in August or September 2025 as a four-to-five-year commitment, and says lacking either accelerator could force an early upgrade. He adds that neither he nor Gupta is in sales.
Dr. Jon Krohn922: AI for Manufacturing and Industry — with Hugo Dozois-Caouette
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Hugo Dozois-Caouette, co-founder and CTO of MaintainX, argues that AI's opportunity in manufacturing starts with capturing data, not modelling it. Plants generate enormous data that mostly goes unused, so the first job is software intuitive enough that workers actually record what they know. AI then has to be grounded and transparent, because mistakes happen around high-voltage machinery.

Replacing the clipboard. MaintainX is a CMMS, or computerised maintenance management system: work-execution software that digitises paper procedures, inspections and work orders. Dozois-Caouette argues it must mimic consumer apps. Eight weeks of training is untenable, he says, as experienced staff retire and machines grow more complex.

The data paradox. Citing studies that put manufacturing's output at about 2,000 petabytes a year, he says most of it is machine-generated and goes "into a void". It is either never transmitted or aggregated in a historian nobody acts on. Vibration data can show how a machine will fail. Prescriptive maintenance adds work-order history and manuals to recommend actions. Model complexity depends on each customer's history: deep cross-machine models need years of data, while simpler models give quicker value.

Generative AI and agents. He cites a study finding about 60% of technicians' time goes on research, troubleshooting and reports. RAG over digitised manuals lets a technician look up an error code at the machine. Background agents will draft reports and handle parts purchasing.

Safety and design. MaintainX grounds answers in manuals, cross-checks them with multiple models, and labels AI output with its sources. It also places AI actions inline in the user's workflow.

  • Industrial software must feel like consumer apps, because training time is gone. Dozois-Caouette, MaintainX co-founder and CTO, describes a CMMS (computerised maintenance management system) as a digitised clipboard of procedures, inspections and work orders. Many customers come from paper; one flagged urgent orders by loading red paper into the printer. He asks why maintenance software takes 8 weeks of training when social apps reached billions untrained, given veteran staff retiring fast and machines growing more complex.
  • Manufacturing generates vast data that mostly goes nowhere. He cites studies putting manufacturing's output at about 2,000 petabytes a year, mostly from machine sensors, yet plants feel data-poor. Machines are often instrumented but disconnected, or feed an on-site historian that nobody uses, and decades of technician knowledge sit in people's heads. Capture comes first, he argues, and insights must not require a degree to read vibration charts.
  • Sensor data enables predictive, then prescriptive, maintenance. Vibration, temperature and current data can show not just that a machine will fail but how, such as misalignment or oil problems, he says. The "holy grail" combines fault detection with work-order history, manuals and manufacturer information to recommend what to do and when. Customers with about three years of history can support deep, cross-machine models; others start with simpler models on a maturity curve, because time to value matters most.
  • RAG over digitised manuals targets technicians' research time. He cites a study finding about 60% of technicians' time goes on researching, troubleshooting and writing reports. Manuals often sit on paper in an in-house library, and one customer hired summer temps to digitise them by hand. He calls RAG still one of the best tools despite bigger context windows. Next, MaintainX is building background agents to draft reports after a work order for human approval, and to source parts at the best price.
  • In high-voltage settings, AI output must be grounded, labelled and in-workflow. Because hallucinated steps could be dangerous, he says MaintainX grounds recommendations in manuals, uses multiple models to check answers, and marks AI content with its sources so users can verify it. AI actions must also sit inline in the user's workflow, not three menus down.
Dr. Jon KrohnWhat Are NPUs? Neural Processing Units Explained by Experts from Dell
  • NPUs are hard-wired for neural-network vector maths, trading flexibility for efficiency. Gupta says NPUs come integrated into the chipset or as discrete cards. Their architectures are almost hard-coded for the vector maths at the heart of neural networks, so they deliver performance per watt and keep AI workloads from tanking battery life. Shah adds that CPUs and GPUs still run AI well; the NPU is the right tool for a particular job.
  • Hardware choice has gone from a two-by-two matrix to eight-by-eight. Shah says that two years ago buyers could just take the newest thing on the menu; now the question of who needs what tool for what purpose is complicated.
  • Discrete NPUs are now coming to laptops. Shah says the Dell Pro Max mobile workstation, with an Intel CPU, is coming soon but not yet out, and is the most requested device in Dell's CTO team. He describes a Dell Technologies World demo running Northwestern Medicine's in-house fine-tuned imaging model on it, live inference on a blurred colonoscopy video with no internet uplink. He pitches it for specialised uses and for regions that restrict what can be sent to the cloud.
AI Analyst LabEmbrace the 'Boring' Future: Why Data Engineering Stability is Key | Ep37
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This episode of the Data Neighbor podcast interviews Manoj, formerly head of engineering for data and AI platforms at Intuit and earlier a senior engineering leader at Meta, Cloudera and Apple. Across the hour he argues one thing: treat data engineering and enterprise LLMs as platforms built proactively, not as services that react to each request. He ends with a prediction that by 2030 the best data organizations will be "super boring in a good way". In that future, AI answers anyone's question through a text box, and the remaining data staff build the context and guardrails behind it.

Lessons from scale. He opens with two experiences. A well-funded biotech data warehouse "choked" when it reached production scale, and he took from it humility and a rule that his teams now ramp traffic gradually with canary releases. At Facebook, small autonomous teams shipped models to billions of users in weeks, which taught him the value of autonomy and removing blockers. He credits the triad/quad leadership model used at Intuit and Meta, in which data, product, UX and engineering leads jointly own a roadmap and its impact, with breaking down knowledge silos. For less mature companies, he suggests defined engineer rubrics (product specialist, framework specialist, module builder), with people covering each other's gaps.

Platform as a product. He predicts the service model of one pipeline per KPI request will become "extinct", because data volumes will grow 4–10x and maintaining pipelines costs more than building them. Teams that clone pipelines produce a dozen versions of one KPI that leadership cannot reconcile. He prefers common ingestion per domain entity, which he puts at about 20 pipelines rather than 100, with lineage, governance and self-serve KPI access that could automate much of analytical engineering. Every pipeline, model and table should have an owner, a roadmap, documentation, an SLA and a contract.

The 3Gs for LLMs. He compares LLMs to Formula 1 cars that crash without roads, guardrails and a pit crew. His recipe is to ground the model in cited sources of truth with a human feedback loop, guard data with privacy by design and masking, and govern it with fairness, accuracy and drift metrics, audit trails, cost-per-answer scorecards and golden-set regression. AI breaks, he says, not on what it generates but on what it is not grounded in. A host recalls war rooms where a metric dropped because a model feature had drifted without raising an alarm.

Squads under constraint. Before a launch, a product squad moves a baseline KPI from X to Y while a platform squad builds the reusable foundations in parallel. Startups short of engineers should cut both squads down to one pain point and one module rather than give up the platform squad.

2030 and beyond. He sees fewer data engineers and scientists, but new squads for enterprise "contextual awareness" and for prompt and cost tuning. He rejects the idea of outsourcing the whole data function, because a company's knowledge of its own products cannot leave it. His closing advice is to work from principles, learn and unlearn, love the problem rather than the tools (he cites Informatica), and speak in outcomes measured against a baseline.

  • Data engineering must become a platform, not a service desk. Manoj, a guest on the Data Neighbor podcast and formerly head of engineering for data and AI platforms at Intuit, says the reactive model of building a pipeline per KPI request will not scale as data grows 4–10x. In his telling, teams clone pipelines, add product-specific logic, and leadership ends up with "a dozen different flavors" of one KPI. His alternative is common ingestion frameworks per domain entity, which he puts at about 20 pipelines for 20 entities across five domains rather than 100 for KPI variants, plus dbt-style transformation, lineage and governance. Each pipeline, model and table is treated like a software product, with an owner, roadmap, documentation, SLA, contract and schema evolution. He argues self-serve KPI access could automate much of analytical engineering.
  • LLMs are Formula 1 cars that need guardrails and a pit crew. Manoj's recipe is the "3Gs". Ground it: point the model at sources of truth, cite them every time, and build in a human feedback loop, because enterprise docs and Jira tickets go stale. Guard it: privacy by design, with masking and minimization for PHI/PII. Govern it: fairness, accuracy and drift metrics, audit trails, scorecards including cost per answer, and regression tests against a golden set. He argues AI at scale breaks not on what it generates but on what it is not grounded in: even 10–20% ungrounded scenarios erode customer trust.
  • Run a product squad and a platform squad in parallel. The product squad picks one customer pain point, sets a north-star metric with a baseline, and builds an MVP to move it from X to Y. Meanwhile the platform squad builds governance, privacy and lineage blocks that the next product reuses, and launch ramps gradually from a handful of customers. For capacity-constrained startups, he advises shrinking both squads to one pain point and one module, never dropping the platform squad to field two product squads, which he predicts ends in nights and weekends spent firefighting.
  • The best future data orgs will be "boring" in a good way. In what he calls aspirational thinking, he predicts that by 2030 any employee will ask a text box how engagement compares with the 90-day average and get green, red or yellow back. Fewer data engineers and scientists would be needed, he says, but they would move to squads for enterprise "contextual awareness" (integrations, APIs, RAG, a semantic knowledge map) and for prompt tuning and cost optimization. Asked by a host whether the whole data function could be outsourced, he says no: tools like Fivetran will cover pieces, but the knowledge of how to get value from a company's own products stays inside it.
  • Production scale humbles a design, so ramp traffic gradually. At a biotech company, a well-funded data warehouse "choked" at real-world scale, and since then he has had his teams ramp production traffic through canary and progressive canary releases. At Facebook he saw small autonomous teams ship models to billions of users within weeks. He credits the triad/quad model used at Intuit and Meta, where data, product, UX and engineering leads jointly own the roadmap and its impact, with breaking down knowledge silos.